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Old 09-24-2007, 10:33 PM
BlackAMEX BlackAMEX is offline
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Default 400nl: Confession: I suck at 3bet pots. Please help!

Ive decided that Im happy with my game its just I REALLY suck in 3bet flops. I end up either just putting villians on the strongest possible hands and playing like a pussy or just closing my eyes and shoving in not knowing where Im at. So Ive decided to post a few 3bet hands so I can get some help:

hero is TAG for all hands.

Hand 1:

Villian is 22/17/3 reg (no other reads)

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($422.20)
Hero ($582.40)
Button ($394)
SB ($99.60)
BB ($818.10)
UTG ($658.40)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $16</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $52</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP calls $36.

Flop: ($110) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, Hero ???

Easy cbet? Then fold to a raise or ch down unimproved if called?

Hand 2:

Villian is 51/13/0.7

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SB ($520.20)
Hero ($530.40)
UTG ($394)
MP ($97.60)
CO ($810.10)
Button ($616.40)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $12</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $46</font>, Button calls $36.

Flop: ($98) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($98) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks (???)

Flop just hits sooo many hands, and given his AF he isnt folding much anyways. Plan was to just check it down unless I improved. Is this ok?

If he bets flop after I check to him, does anyone CR here? I dont like cc here, but does anyone advocate that?

Hand 3:

Villian is 18/14/4 reg. I have 3bet him a few times in the last 3 orbits (last couple times have been with good hands like this).

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($436.50)
SB ($970.72)
Hero ($740.20)
UTG ($414.50)
MP ($400)
CO ($398)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $12</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $44</font>, Button calls $34.

Flop: ($94) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $94

Standard bet/get it in spot?

Hand 4:

Villian is 14/10/3

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($400)
UTG ($492.10)
MP ($503.30)
Button ($238.29)
Hero ($396)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $14</font>, Button calls $14, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $68</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $54, Button folds.

Flop: ($154) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero ???

Cbet or not? I thought this was a cf but we'll see what everyone else thinks.

Thanks alot to everyone who has read this, and please respond as like I said Im struggling alot with these type of hands. Any coment at all appreciated.

Also - are there any good resources I should look up about playing 3bet pots?

Edit: To convet 3rd hand.
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