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Old 09-24-2007, 04:39 PM
Irishman07 Irishman07 is offline
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Default bottom full house... shove river?

Don't have any reads on villain, but he seems extremely nitty. His stats over 60 hands or so are 12/4/3. His turn raise threw me off and really looked like a huge hand, either KK/QQ/KQ that decided to get cute and slowplay the flop. I didn't want to raise the turn in the off chance he was bluffing so I thought I'd minimize my losses if behind and give him another chance to fire a barrel if bluffing. Is there value in shoving the river or should I just call down?

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB ($280.55)
UTG ($179.45)
<font color="#C00000">MP ($191.70)</font>
CO ($477.95)
Button ($348.50)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($198)</font>

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $7</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $6, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($16) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP checks.

Turn: ($16) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $36</font>, Hero calls $24.

River: ($88) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $55</font>, Hero...
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Old 09-24-2007, 04:42 PM
chiTown22 chiTown22 is offline
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Default Re: bottom full house... shove river?

Yes this is a clear shove. If he has you beat, you will lose the pot, oh well. Overall a shove here is +EV.

Edit: Also, I don't think you can check this river. You are losing value by giving him the chance to check behind.
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