$60 L1 88 flops overpair/gutshot vs lag

[Little John]

villian is 45/25, 38 hands

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

CO (t1500)
Button (t1480)
SB (t1540)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t1480)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1500)
Hero (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t20, UTG+1 calls t20, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t20, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t80</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls t60, UTG+1 calls t60, Hero calls t60.

Flop: (t340) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t320</font>, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, Hero?

[RexWoo]

Agression factor ?

Anyway, you can't really call here and pushing seems risky.

I fold but don't like it.

[darinvg]

He's showing a ton of strength by raising in the SB and potting the flop. Pretty easy fold IMO.

[alex-star]

well, two observations.... SB only raised to 80 - kinda light given 3 limpers. and now he's potting it.... it's either an overpair scared of draws, or some kind of a combo draw AQs/AKs. Given that it's the second hand of the tournee, I am folding.

[Scotty_12]

I t hink at level 1 you can let this go with no regrets having only invested 80 chips. LAGs can pick up hands t oo sometimes [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[jurrasstoil]

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well, two observations.... SB only raised to 80 - kinda light given 3 limpers. and now he's potting it.... it's either an overpair scared of draws, or some kind of a combo draw AQs/AKs. Given that it's the second hand of the tournee, I am folding.

[/ QUOTE ]agreed

plus you'll find a better spot than a drawheavy board. Only hands you can beat are high cards, draws and top/middle/bottom pair and 77,33,22. And the draws with overcards are still 50/50 to win.

[Snarf]

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I t hink at level 1 you can let this go with no regrets having only invested 80 chips. LAGs can pick up hands t oo sometimes [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Yeah I don't understand what we're talking about here.

...just...why?

[stu-unger]

i agree w/ everyone. if we call and are ahead, basically every turn card scares/beats and we have built a pot thats like 1/2 our stack. if we raise we pretty much allow villain to play perfectly against us. im not certain were beat but folding is all i can see doing...

[citanul]

ummm he's 45/25 guys... that means in 38 hands he's playd he's raised 10 times or so. you'd think that it'd be fairly likely that at this point OP should know what smallish raises (or oop raises) mean.

if he's 45/25 in the early game i'm sorely tempted to shove when it gets back to me to close the action preflop.

[Little John]

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ummm he's 45/25 guys... that means in 38 hands he's playd he's raised 10 times or so. you'd think that it'd be fairly likely that at this point OP should know what smallish raises (or oop raises) mean.

if he's 45/25 in the early game i'm sorely tempted to shove when it gets back to me to close the action preflop.

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he is 45/25 filtered for 7-9 players, so almost all early game stats.

i have no notes on him. to hard to take notes on every guy you have played against twice. with stats like these i just lump him into the "terrible" camp.