Freedom of speech on Pocketfives ... gg

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Well I just finished posting an article about bigjoe disagreement with pocketfives, and I thought it was very inetresting. I was interested in seeing what other think about it. I'm very fascinating by reading when top players disagree on how to play certain hands amd stratedgy. in this case bigjow was straongly disagreeing with jenifeear. And I get an message stating "stop promoting sng__s website" Huh?
I don't even have a membership in that site. SO now you are ONLY allowed to discuss players from sites that only advertise on pocketfives? what gives? Why do you guys assume when someone mentions another website, that they are the webmaster of the site.

I simply pasted a comment that bigjoe had on his blog. And the anlyses that one of the guys at his site gave "tearing" the sng stratedgy that jennifear was giving. Can't we agree to disagree?

gg......... Freedom of speech.

(wonder if this will be deleted too)


This was the post:

Pocket5s puts me on tilt

Friday, September 14 2007 @ 08:42 AM PDT
Contributed by: bigjoe2003
Views: 473
SnGIcon: bigjoe2003's BlogIusually just ignore the articles on pocketfives.com but I can't justsit by and let someone pretend they know sngs...I know sngs

Sosome chick nicknamed Jennifear, I guess a pun on Jennifer I dunno,writes this article in which she basically tries to enlighten people onhow to play sngs better by opening up your game in the early levels soas to take advantage of the tighter players, bla bla bla. Honestly, sheseems like a nice girl, and Sheets seems to like her so I'm sure she'sa good person but it just frustrates me to no end when someone impliesthey know better than me when it comes to sngs. And by writing thisarticle without consulting me first she is implying that she knows whatshe is talking about, and I hate to break it to you Jennifear, but youdon't. If you want to learn how to beat sngs and make money watch thevideos on this site, do not try and follow the advice of random peoplewho write articles claiming to have figured out some better method.


which article is he talking about?


Other guy there RIPS apart Jennifear HH.

It is really hilarious I decided to tear it up. Note I only commented on the most egregious mistakes and was too bored/frustrated to give a full account of why pretty much everything she says is wrong

http://www.sngicons.com/article.php?...70521214618369

[schwah]

srs bznz

[PsYcOsNiPeR]

tl;dr

cliffs any1?

[THAY3R]

Yea, freedom of speech definitely applies to private internet message boards!

[ASPoker8]

lol @ freedom of speech on pocketfives

It is well known that the moderators dont care about anything and will delete posts or ban you if they dont like what you're saying, whether it deserves to be deleted or not

[dmk]

i don't like p5s. however, i like even less the 13-21 yo population that seems to think "freedom of speech" is this universal uninfringable freedom.

guess what? p5s is a private site. they can censor any material they like. "gg freedom of speech" is such a ridiculously unfounded argument that you just look that much less intelligent to anyone w/ half a brain.

[dmk]

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Yea, freedom of speech definitely applies to private internet message boards!

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ofc

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My post was delted. This guys tore down one of there star writers. She obviously didn't know what she was talking about :

the guys comments are the B
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PokerStars Game #9611852774: Tournament #48782338, $55+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level I
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(10/20) - 2007/04/26 - 01:51:44 (ET)
Table '48782338 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: PunkinBear (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: GolfManic (1500 in chips)
Seat 3: Weir (1500 in chips)
Seat 4: aatigers (1500 in chips)
Seat 5: NIROG (1500 in chips)
Seat 6: MildSeven519 (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: xyz888 (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: DABIGFISH (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: Cards828587 (1500 in chips)
GolfManic: posts small blind 10
Weir: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PunkinBear [8s 9c]
aatigers: folds
NIROG: raises 60 to 80
A 4xBB early position raise is usually a solid hand.
Not really people are stupid that is why poker is easy to make money at. ,
I'll range him AK, TT+ to be safe.
To be safe? Does that mean you think he is opening tighter than that? Do you really think an unknown in this type of SNG fold Ace Queen or 99?
MildSeven519: folds
xyz888: folds
DABIGFISH: folds
Cards828587: folds
PunkinBear: folds
Therefore, from this spot I would only consider playing QQ+ for a reraise, folding AK and calling with smaller pairs (22-JJ) for the purposes of set mining.
You feel JJ is a set mining hand, but QQ is a reraise? One hand reraise get all in another call check fold as an overpair? I also think calling with 22 here is really bad you are 75bbs deep these chips are valuable there is very little overlay in the pot. I play AK like a giant nit and I would never ever ever fold here.,
GolfManic: calls 70
Weir: folds
*** FLOP *** [7c Qc 3c]
GolfManic: checks
NIROG: checks
*** TURN *** [7c Qc 3c] [Qs]
GolfManic: checks
NIROG: checks
*** RIVER *** [7c Qc 3c Qs] [7s]
GolfManic: checks
NIROG: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
GolfManic: shows [9h Ah] (two pair, Queens and Sevens)
NIROG: mucks hand
GolfManic collected 180 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 180 | Rake 0
Board [7c Qc 3c Qs 7s]
Seat 1: PunkinBear (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: GolfManic (small blind) showed [9h Ah] and won (180) with two pair, Queens and Sevens
Seat 5: NIROG mucked [Jd 9d]
We now know that NIROG is capable of making an early position raise for deception purposes.
We know he think JACK and NINE and SOOTED RAISE
and doesn't automatically continue bet, so respecting his postflop bets is a must.
Except for the fact that he probably massively overvalues hands so he will think top pair all in
In addition, we can label GolfManic as a loose caller, early on, also passive postflop, as he never took a stab at it. Both of these players literally sent invitations to each other to steal this pot.
You don’t know what the word literally means do you?

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PokerStars Game #9611898973: Tournament #48782338, $55+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/04/26 - 01:56:52 (ET)
Table '48782338 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: PunkinBear (1570 in chips)
Seat 2: GolfManic (1580 in chips)
Seat 3: Weir (1520 in chips)
Seat 4: aatigers (1470 in chips)
Seat 5: NIROG (1390 in chips)
Seat 6: MildSeven519 (1390 in chips)
Seat 7: xyz888 (1480 in chips)
Seat 8: DABIGFISH (1470 in chips)
Seat 9: Cards828587 (1630 in chips)
Cards828587: posts small blind 15
PunkinBear: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PunkinBear [9s As]
GolfManic: folds
Weir: folds
aatigers: raises 60 to 90
NIROG: folds
MildSeven519: folds
xyz888: folds
DABIGFISH: folds
Cards828587: calls 75
PunkinBear: calls 60
I dislike my hand, but it's good odds to call, and my intent is to flop a 2p+ hand to continue hard. The implied odds are potentially enormous.
Earlier Golfmanic called a similar raise and you labeled him a loose preflop caller. I’m pretty sure if you are calling for 2pair, three of a kind and flushes this call is –EV,
*** FLOP *** [5d Td 8d]

[Bakes]

newsflash - take your freedom of speech somewhere else