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Old 03-02-2006, 02:26 PM
DoubleTwentyOne DoubleTwentyOne is offline
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Default AA facing two flop all-ins

Game is $3/5 NL at local cardroom.
Hero ~$600
Villain1 ~$350 tricky LAG, likes to slowplay big hands
Villain2 ~$700 just sat down from table change

Hero picks up A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] UTG+1 and opens for $30
Villain1 in MP counts out chips as if to raise then hesitates and only smooth calls. Villain2 in CO calls. Take the flop 3 ways.

Pot~$100. Flop: J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero bets $100. Villain1 one beats Hero into the pot with an insta-shove. Villain2 beats Villain1 into the pot with an over-the-top insta-shove.

Effective Pot is now ~$1000, will cost hero $570 to call.
I bet real strong on the flop because I put Villain1 on a slowplayed KK or QQ, only question is, am I drawing dead to Villain2 here?
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Old 03-02-2006, 02:38 PM
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Default Re: AA facing two flop all-ins

umm, according to your preflop stack sizes there should be about $1180 in the pot actually, and its going to cost you $470 to call. with that said i still fold pretty quickly.
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Old 03-02-2006, 02:40 PM
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Default Re: AA facing two flop all-ins

I probably call this. Even if villain 1 happens to have JJ, you are still ok because of the side pot... I call and hope villain 2 doesnt have jacks... pot is too big to fold... how bad u gonna feel when they show QQ and KK... or even the other AA...
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Old 03-02-2006, 02:42 PM
Bill King Bill King is offline
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Default Re: AA facing two flop all-ins

you're not drawing dead to him.. you're drawing to 2 outs for sure.. if no set then i am really suprised but in the end you make the right decision in folding.
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Old 03-02-2006, 03:03 PM
DoubleTwentyOne DoubleTwentyOne is offline
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Default Re: AA facing two flop all-ins

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you're not drawing dead to him.. you're drawing to 2 outs for sure..

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2 outs or less = drawing dead
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Old 03-02-2006, 03:03 PM
JKratzer JKratzer is offline
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Default Re: AA facing two flop all-ins

easy fold.
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Old 03-02-2006, 03:38 PM
NickPoker NickPoker is offline
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Default Re: AA facing two flop all-ins

Easy fold, one if not both have you beat. Your only chance of not losing here is if villain 2 is over agro with Kings or Queens, which would be a very bad play on his part.
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Old 03-02-2006, 03:45 PM
SilverLining1 SilverLining1 is offline
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Default Re: AA facing two flop all-ins

Villain 2 will instashove because calling does nothing here, since whether he calls or not, you are already committed if you call and he's already committed if you call too.

Villain 2 may or may not know Villain 1 is a tricky LAG. If he does, then maybe he makes a move with KK. Does he not fold QQ here? And if he has KK, and your read on Villain 1 is that he might have had KK, then doesn't that mean that Villain one's range has most likely been knocked down to QQ or something else (JJ/77)? And, would Villain not push using his LAG image, with his remaining 350, if he reads your 100 bet for QQ - AA? Fold.
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Old 03-02-2006, 03:57 PM
Aloysius Aloysius is offline
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Default Re: AA facing two flop all-ins

Double - yeah... even though this is live, I think this isn't too hard a fold, especially with no read on Villain 2 - average player is only re-re-popping over the top with set minimum on this board. You are probably ahead of Villain 1.

So Villain 1 tabled Queens and Villain 2 tabled AJo? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

-Al
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Old 03-02-2006, 03:58 PM
BobboFitos BobboFitos is offline
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Default Re: AA facing two flop all-ins

this is tough, but it's live poker and you have aces, so you pretty much should call unless you can see visibly you are beaten
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