20/180 TT gets 3 bet preflop

bambam16 · #1 09-22-2007, 12:23 AM

$20/180 from tonight. I have been playing fairly TAG the entire tournament, picking my spots pretty well. I picked a not so hot spot at this table about 3 rounds ago, trying to pick up the blinds from the SB with T3s (not all in though) but caught a pair post flop and got a donk to call with A high. Since then I've raised maybe 3 times, no flops seen.

3 bettor in this hand has done nothing out of the ordinary. As I type this post I realize he wasn't at the table to see my T3 debacle.

Anyways, might as well ask my questions...given the amount of money in the pot, how much fold equity do you think we have? What kind of range do you put him on? What's my play?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO (t2910)
Button (t1390)
SB (t3400)
BB (t1400)
Hero (t4650)
UTG+1 (t7090)
MP1 (t5345)
MP2 (t1020)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero raises to t300, 5 folds, SB raises to t1000, 1 fold, Hero ???

erc007 · #2 09-22-2007, 01:03 AM

I don't think u have any FE here really. If you shove, he'll be getting almost 2 to 1 to call. I don't like calling the 3-bet b/c he'll have about a PSB left and he should be open-shoving any flop. You only have 34% equity vs. a std/tight 3-betting range: TT+;AKs;AKo. With almost no dead-money in the pot/and no FE, you need about 50% equity to break even...a b/e range is: 88+AQs+;AQo+. Without a read, and without decent FE, i think i fold this.

donquay · #3 09-22-2007, 06:41 AM

yeah he's not folding to a shove (only has 2400 behind) unless he's the worst/tight player ever (of course that player wouldn't 3-bet an utg raise with a weak holding).

I'd dump it for the reasons as laid out by erc007.

levAA · #4 09-22-2007, 06:56 AM

You raise from UTG - so his reraise not pushing shows real strength.
I think you will face an overpair here in more than 80% against an ABC player.
I would fold.

bambam16 · #5 09-22-2007, 10:34 AM

Yeah I had a feeling I messed this one up pretty much as soon as I pushed the all in button. I thought he might have a slightly wider range because he was 3 betting OOP, so he might be raising a more marginal hand to end it preflop. But all of you were right, he called w/ QQ and I was crippled.