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Old 09-20-2007, 05:45 PM
Sounded Simple Sounded Simple is offline
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Default 25NL KK on paired board - I donk it up.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($33.30)
BB ($14.45)
UTG ($65.80)
Hero ($24.65)
MP1 ($6.25)
MP2 ($13.10)
MP3 ($15)
CO ($25.25)
Button ($4.90)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, MP1 calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($4.20) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5.25</font>, MP1 folds, CO calls $5.25, BB folds.

Turn: ($14.70) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $7.75</font>, CO calls $7.75.

River: ($30.20) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero......? </font>


Preflop -
Standard raise gets four callers. Not what I want but meh.

Flop
I meant to bet the pot here but I use a betpot script and it does this on occasion.
In any case my thinking was to thin the field, charge a flush draw and get value from JJ,QQ and a T.

Turn -
I think I got this all wrong but Im not sure of the best line.
Im only beating JJ, QQ and a flush draw. Against AA or a T Im drawing to two outs.
I have been fairly tight on this table so the villan has no reason to think im FOS.

River
I have managed to build a big pot with an overpair, now what?
Shove?
Check/Call?
Check/Fold?

Edit - Sorry forgot read,
Villan was 22/10/1.3 over 190 hands.
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Old 09-20-2007, 05:51 PM
elgreenhornet elgreenhornet is offline
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Default Re: 25NL KK on paired board - I donk it up.

tough spot. i check turn and see what kind of bet he puts in. value bet means gtfo. small bet id raise and see what he does. big bet maybe he has a pocket pair and thought your continuation bet didnt mean anything. i could be wrong though
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Old 09-20-2007, 06:02 PM
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Default Re: 25NL KK on paired board - I donk it up.

Turn bet is fine, charge straight/flush draws. C/c river.
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Old 09-21-2007, 05:11 AM
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Default Re: 25NL KK on paired board - I donk it up.

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tough spot. i check turn and see what kind of bet he puts in. value bet means gtfo. small bet id raise and see what he does. big bet maybe he has a pocket pair and thought your continuation bet didnt mean anything. i could be wrong though

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Sorry but what's gtfo mean?
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Old 09-21-2007, 05:34 AM
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Default Re: 25NL KK on paired board - I donk it up.

gtfo - get the fukc out, i think
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Old 09-21-2007, 07:18 AM
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Default Re: 25NL KK on paired board - I donk it up.

wow, 22/10/1.5 was I the villain?

Anyway, youve already put in well over half your stack. If villain had a higher AF you might c/c to induce a bluff, but he doesnt so:

ARRRR INNNN

it sucks because most of the time you get called youre gonna lose, but c/f isnt an option at this point.
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Old 09-21-2007, 08:43 AM
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Default Re: 25NL KK on paired board - I donk it up.

I actually pushed and he had T9

The more I think about it the more I think I played this horrible.

On the turn my bet really commits me to the pot but if you think about it the only hand I beat and wants to get all in is QQ. (If he has JJ he might call but if he has a brain he will know he only beats AK/Air and is crushed otherwise)

By pushing the river everything that beats me is calling and everything I beat (except QQ maybe JJ if he is a donk) folds.

I didnt plan this hand very well IMO.
In this situation would a better default line be check/call from the turn on (adjusting for bet size and river card obv)??
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Old 09-21-2007, 08:45 AM
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Default Re: 25NL KK on paired board - I donk it up.

BTW - Fiasco if your SN matches it wasnt you :-)
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