25NL TPMK - go all in to protect or check because i hate my kicker?

[swainy]

I just played this hand a few minutes ago. Dont have much in the way of reads:

MP2 = 56/4/0.73 over only 23 hands
CO = 66/8/1.2 over only 24 hands
SB = 31/0/0 over only 16 hands

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $6.55
BB: $23.70
UTG: $15.75
swainy83 (UTG+1): $21.90
MP1: $29.10
MP2: $69.50
CO: $13.80
BTN: $42.55

Preflop: swainy83 is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (8 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">swainy83 raises to $1.00</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $1.00, CO calls $1.00, BTN folds, SB calls $0.90, BB folds

Flop: ($4.25) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">swainy83 bets $3.00</font>, MP2 calls $3.00, CO calls $3.00, SB calls $3.00

Turn: ($16.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">swainy83????

So there's $16.25 in the pot and i have $17.90 left. If I'm betting here, I need to move all in. If I check, do i have to fold to a bet? The only ace i can now beat is A9 or A7...

my question is, should i protect my hand against the players who are drawing and risk seeing AJ, AQ, A8, 66, 33.... or should I check for pot control/folding if anyone makes a significant bet?

All advice, criticisms, opinions welcome.

cheers

[EN09]

i fold this preflop to keep out of these situations. multiple flop callers can't be good for you either. nor is the fact your OOP. gl.

EN

[RapidEvolution]

I'd fold this pre-flop. A-10 isn't that strong and you're not really happy to get called or re-raised...limping seems bad too as you're out of position with a medium strength hand (at best).

5 people see the flop and you're second to act...I honestly don't know if betting is good, but if you're going to, at least bet the pot (maybe overbet?). After the turn, I c/f this. It's very likely you're beaten here.

[umaine89]

I fold preflop. You're in EP and ATo can't take any heat when you flop top pair. As played, I am done on turn when I am called by THREE players. They're not all drawing often enough to make a profit.

[BJJIII]

I fold this pf and check fold to a turn bet.

[swainy]

ok, PF is raise is suspect, and not every1 agrees with betting this flop.... fair enough.

That aside, these players seem fishy to me, they could have all sorts of hands. The only villain i am really concerned about is MP2 with the large stack, but he hasn't shown any strength.

[EN09]

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ok, PF is raise is suspect, and not every1 agrees with betting this flop.... fair enough.

That aside, these players seem fishy to me, they could have all sorts of hands. The only villain i am really concerned about is MP2 with the large stack, but he hasn't shown any strength.

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yep. they'll call bets all day long with all kinds of hands... and overcall too... all kinds...

fold preflop and you don't need to make 'reads' like this when OOP and everybody and their mamma are calling you down and worse yet... overcalling each other. your fishiness reads aside, how many times would you like to find yourself in your particular position, or put yourself in this position. i give up the hand but it sounds as if you believe somehow you're ahead a majority of the time here. gl.

EN

[swainy]

usually i would think i was behind, i just can't give these players too much credit

[zyrrth]

fold preflop
check/fold turn

[r2me]

fold PF. raising may be good to represent strength, but I'd need to know the table stats before I would raise from UTG+1. if the table is rarely raising (1-3%), then I "may" consider it. But not from that position...what happens when you get reraised?

check/fold turn. cbets work best against 1 or 2 players, but they are like flushing $$ down the toilet against 3+...esp w/ that kicker.