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Old 09-20-2007, 08:03 AM
die_rich88 die_rich88 is offline
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Default Full Tilt 11+1 Turbo -> 2 hands for analysis

Hand #1:

Read: villan is your standard tight-agg player but pushbot when shorthanded. Villan has been pushing quite often, especially from the button (roughly 3 or 4 out of the last 6 times he was in button position).

I have a decent/mid stack. Do I call?

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t500 (4 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

UTG (t5000)
Button (t2705)
SB (t2400)
Hero (t3395)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t2705 (All-In)</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t2205.

Flop: (t5660) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>
.

Turn: (t5660) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t5660) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t5660

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 9d Ac (one pair, nines).
Button has Kd Qd (straight, king high).
Outcome: Button wins t5660. </font>

Hand #2

Push??
BB is somewhat loose (VP$IP% roughly 30-35%).

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t300 (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

SB (t3520)
BB (t2595)
UTG (t3042)
MP (t1608)
Hero (t1750)
Button (t985)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1750 (All-In)</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls t1450.

Flop: (t3650) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>
.

Turn: (t3650) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t3650) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t3650

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has 7s 7d (two pair, queens and sevens).
Hero has Ah 4h (one pair, queens).
Outcome: BB wins t3650. </font>
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Old 09-20-2007, 08:11 AM
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Default Re: Full Tilt 11+1 Turbo -> 2 hands for analysis

Can't call first, you are more tight caller on bubble then A9o even given the history.

Second is good i guess, bb will strike you soon, and there wont be better spots.
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Old 09-20-2007, 08:14 AM
die_rich88 die_rich88 is offline
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Default Re: Full Tilt 11+1 Turbo -> 2 hands for analysis

For Hand #1 - if A9 is a no call. What range would you call with? would you call with pairs 66+? what about A10, AJ?
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Old 09-20-2007, 08:39 AM
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Default Re: Full Tilt 11+1 Turbo -> 2 hands for analysis

I like the call on the first and don't like the push on the second but really I can be wrong and SNGPT / SNG WIZ or their friends would give you much more accurate answers.
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Old 09-20-2007, 08:41 AM
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Default Re: Full Tilt 11+1 Turbo -> 2 hands for analysis

I fold Number 1

I push number 2
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Old 09-20-2007, 08:47 AM
RexWoo RexWoo is offline
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Default Re: Full Tilt 11+1 Turbo -> 2 hands for analysis

ok I sngwized them

1st he needs to push 30% + which goes down to JTs, K8 ... so it's probably close and depends on reads.

2nd I was wrong and looks like a good push vs any reasonable range.
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Old 09-20-2007, 11:05 AM
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Default Re: Full Tilt 11+1 Turbo -> 2 hands for analysis

wait, are you saying sng wiz reports that we should push with 30+ in case 1? How is that possible. Did it put the button on like 80+ or something? I can't imagine in a 11+1 that someone would be pushing that wide, but maybe.

As for case 2
i like the push
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Old 09-20-2007, 11:20 AM
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Default Re: Full Tilt 11+1 Turbo -> 2 hands for analysis

both seem fairly standard. i make call on 1 esp against pushbotting regs. 2 is dumb easy shov with like 6bb
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Old 09-20-2007, 11:27 AM
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Default Re: Full Tilt 11+1 Turbo -> 2 hands for analysis

[ QUOTE ]
wait, are you saying sng wiz reports that we should push with 30+ in case 1?

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What I say is that the call is correct if he is pushing 30% or more. I agree that it is unlikely at a 11.
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Old 09-20-2007, 11:28 AM
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Default Re: Full Tilt 11+1 Turbo -> 2 hands for analysis

And button should probably push ~25%
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