NL 100 deep, tough spot w JJ

Rounder101 · #1 09-20-2007, 02:56 AM

Villain is running at 31/8/1.3

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UTG ($204)
MP ($100)
CO ($100)
Hero ($358.95)
SB ($106.55)
BB ($178.20)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises to $3.5, 1 fold, BB calls $2.50.

Flop: ($7.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $7.5, Hero raises to $25, BB raises to $182.2 (All-In), Hero??

Is my flop 3b ok or just calling looks better??

duckyfuzz · #2 09-20-2007, 03:32 AM

I just flat call the flop here and see what he does on the turn. I think this is a WA/WB situation most of the time.

cestlavie · #3 09-20-2007, 03:35 AM

Unless the HH is f'ed, you're not 3-betting but the villain is? But assuming you're Hero, you can beat about AT and that's it. QQ+, TT, 88, 33, T8 have you in bad shape.

Rounder101 · #4 09-20-2007, 03:38 AM

yeah Im sorry, my mistake, meant raising flop

2Paul2 · #5 09-20-2007, 04:59 AM

Just call the flop.

Id prolly fold to the shove this deep but its a weird board to take a line like that w/ hands >JJ. A slowplayed AA/KK wouldnt surprise me though.

Kapten · #6 09-20-2007, 05:06 AM

I would have 3-bet pre-flop. As played I think the reraise is fine, your in position. I would fold to his shove.

cs3 · #7 09-20-2007, 05:22 AM

wtf at stack sizes - BB has 178 to start but then shoves for 182 on the flop?!?! whats goin on?

anyway assuming hero actually is button:
ugh, just call flop. hardly any value in raising.

as played this an easy fold. calling off 180bb's more with a weakish overpair on this board is pretty bad. villain has a set soooo often.
there are like 0 players at 100NL who shove bet/shove J9/79 this deep after you raise the flop on this dry board

Spy Dog · #8 09-20-2007, 08:14 AM

Calling flop is OK. Minraising flop is better than raising large. He's rarely 3-betting with a worse hand. Also, minraising keeps Tx/8x/3x/PP in the hand, whereas raising large can get those hands to fold since you are repping an overpair.

Certainly fold to the AI.