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Old 09-18-2007, 07:42 PM
CanuckEh CanuckEh is offline
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Default Semi Deep KK vs AgroDonk

He is 60/11 over 280 hands. He plays back post flop any opportunity you give him. He also overvalues hands, and min re raised me one time in the past and I folded my weak hand. He doesn't seem smart (obv if he's 60/11).

I check the flop for pot control, also with the fact that he'll bet if he has any opportunity to take down a pot. I was waiting for him to 3 barrell me and I was going to call down. I can't fold in a big pot against him so thats why I checked the flop. On the turn I felt I had the best hand, but his min raise on the turn pissed me off because it screams strength from a fish. What do I do on the river?


Hero (SB): $480.10
BB: $202.00
UTG: $202.00
MP: $203.00
CO: $198.40
BTN: $307.05

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
3 folds, BTN calls $2.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12.00</font>, BB folds, BTN calls $10.00

Flop: ($26) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($26) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $20.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $40.00</font>, Hero calls $20.00

River: ($106) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $100.00</font>, Hero ?
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Old 09-18-2007, 07:48 PM
Shizzle12345 Shizzle12345 is offline
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Default Re: Semi Deep KK vs AgroDonk

really really [censored] spots, this is why I am down so much to these guys cos they always got like T4o here. Never raise this river, because if he has quarter of a brain he will probably fold most hands that you beat.

I always call this i think. Or you might repop it on the turn. I really dont know how to play these guys, he can have anything here.
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Old 09-18-2007, 07:51 PM
nazahl nazahl is offline
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Default Re: Semi Deep KK vs AgroDonk

I usually just bet/bet/bet w/ an overpair vs a fish. u put yourself in a weird spot with this line since he probably doesnt think ur as strong as you are, that said... it really doesn't look like he's bluffing here either.
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Old 09-18-2007, 07:51 PM
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Default Re: Semi Deep KK vs AgroDonk

Just bet the flop, when he raises you check raise the turn AI. As played I'd probably fold unless I really sensed it was a "please please please fold" pot bet.
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Old 09-18-2007, 07:51 PM
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Default Re: Semi Deep KK vs AgroDonk

I'm never really pot controlling here against a 60/11, it's only 150bb. Lead flop 20, re-evaluate what he does on the turn.

As played, you under-repped your hand a lot and I think you should at least call.
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Old 09-18-2007, 07:51 PM
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Default Re: Semi Deep KK vs AgroDonk

Please bet flop. We have an overpair vs. a calling station no need to get fancy, just take him to valuetown. As played, river is tough, I dunno really. A pot sized bet from this sort of player on the river is usually quite strong, I probably fold.
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Old 09-18-2007, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: Semi Deep KK vs AgroDonk

He's not a calling station. Post flop he's raising a lot of bets, he's just a station pre flop.
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Old 09-18-2007, 07:54 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: Semi Deep KK vs AgroDonk

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I check the flop for pot control

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whaaaa?? If you check the flop, please do not do it for this reason.
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Old 09-18-2007, 07:55 PM
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Default Re: Semi Deep KK vs AgroDonk

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I check the flop for pot control

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whaaaa?? If you check the flop, please do not do it for this reason.

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What if you don't want to fold KK in a big pot because you know he loves bluffing post flop? I either put myself in a tough spot to a big bet (bigger than $100) or I check and let him bluff away as he probably would?
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Old 09-18-2007, 07:55 PM
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Default Re: Semi Deep KK vs AgroDonk

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He's not a calling station. Post flop he's raising a lot of bets

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So you checked the flop on a board that he's going to think totally whiffed you?
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