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Old 09-18-2007, 03:39 PM
Bostik Bostik is offline
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Default 10NL: AA turns a set and curses

This hand caused me a lot of grief, and even after reviewing my session later on I'm still not sure what is the best line.

Villain (MP3) is a relatively bad player but not a cash cow.

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saw flop

SB ($12.05)
BB ($8.35)
Hero ($10.05)
UTG+1 ($16.10)
MP1 ($6.05)
MP2 ($15.20)
MP3 ($5)
CO ($18.55)
Button ($4.80)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. MP3 posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls $0.40, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 (poster) calls $0.30, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls $0.30.

Flop: ($1.65) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $0.3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.8</font>, MP1 folds, MP3 calls $1.80, BB folds.

Turn: ($5.55) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero curses and ...?


Based on the game so far, I'm facing either two pair or a big queen and hence a made straight. If MP3 has a queen, I'm about 20/75 underdog, with 5-6% chance for a tie.

How often am I still ahead here? Against a queen I know I'm getting bad odds all the way. In other words, c/f or shove, and most of all, why?
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Old 09-18-2007, 03:45 PM
BigBiceps BigBiceps is offline
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Default Re: 10NL: AA turns a set and curses

Check, you can decide what to do if he bets.

Shoving allows him to play perfectly against you and accomplishes nothing.
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Old 09-18-2007, 03:48 PM
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Default Re: 10NL: AA turns a set and curses

Shove you only have to be good 25% since villain is half stacked.
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Old 09-18-2007, 03:51 PM
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Default Re: 10NL: AA turns a set and curses

Villain only has 1/2 psb left so I think folding is a mistake.
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Old 09-18-2007, 04:16 PM
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Default Re: 10NL: AA turns a set and curses

You might as well just shove given the fatc that this is $10 NL and your opponent has a half stack to start the hand. He doens't have a T incredibly often here. If he were deeper stacked, I would check and re-eval.
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Old 09-18-2007, 04:20 PM
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Default Re: 10NL: AA turns a set and curses

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Shoving allows him to play perfectly against you and accomplishes nothing.

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lol its NL10

you get looked up by plenty weaker hands
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Old 09-18-2007, 04:21 PM
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Default Re: 10NL: AA turns a set and curses

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Shoving allows him to play perfectly against you and accomplishes nothing.

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Thank you. That pretty much says it all.
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Old 09-18-2007, 04:25 PM
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Default Re: 10NL: AA turns a set and curses

Level?

Shove this all day every day with what villain has behind.
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Old 09-18-2007, 04:26 PM
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Default Re: 10NL: AA turns a set and curses

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Shoving allows him to play perfectly against you and accomplishes nothing.

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lol its NL10

you get looked up by plenty weaker hands

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True enough, but I do prefer to learn from my plays, both good and bad. The less mistakes (according to Sklansky's Fundamental Theorem of Poker) I make, the more I can expect to win.

And why do I care? I plan to make my own way by climbing up the levels at some point.
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Old 09-18-2007, 04:41 PM
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Default Re: 10NL: AA turns a set and curses

Can we please stop putting the emphasis on our replies on which level the hero is playing?! I do understand that you are going to get looked up by a lot of hands here at a lot of levels, not just 10NL. And the decision is mainly based on stacks sizes and odds to river a boat if behind. It has nothing to do with the level or the skill of the competition.
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