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Old 09-18-2007, 08:05 AM
oakrdrzfan oakrdrzfan is offline
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Default NL25: Facing Ck Rs with OvrPr w/ Caller still to act

The villain that ck rs'd this flop seems pretty straight forward. Is this a fold given that there is another person to act and that this flop was 4 way to start? Ck Raising into a PF raiser that cbets and a caller looks pretty strong?

Does anyone ck this flop?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $24.55
BB: $25.75
UTG: $27.95
UTG+1: $12.85
MP1: $51.20
Hero (MP2): $24.80
MP3: $19.75
CO: $8.90
BTN: $15.75

Reads: <font color="blue">BB: 10/3/1.1 over 300 hands. Had not CR flop once in 8 opportunities from PAHUD at the time

Button had just sat down. This was his 3rd hand.</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (9 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.00</font>, MP3 folds, CO calls $1.00, BTN calls $1.00, SB folds, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($4.10) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3.50</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $3.50, <font color="red">BB raises to $8.50</font>, Hero Pushes, Calls, Folds???
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Old 09-18-2007, 08:13 AM
Larude Larude is offline
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Default Re: NL25: Facing Ck Rs with OvrPr w/ Caller still to act

Bet more on the flop, otherwise a clear fold against this guy...
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Old 09-18-2007, 09:43 AM
No1Addict No1Addict is offline
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Default Re: NL25: Facing Ck Rs with OvrPr w/ Caller still to act

I agree with Larude about the clear fold.
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Old 09-18-2007, 09:48 AM
CazicT CazicT is offline
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Default Re: NL25: Facing Ck Rs with OvrPr w/ Caller still to act

Yup, this is the type of hand that pays for PAHUD.
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Old 09-18-2007, 10:28 AM
PokerFun007 PokerFun007 is offline
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Default Re: NL25: Facing Ck Rs with OvrPr w/ Caller still to act

Over pair is not good here, but I disagree with betting more on the flop. Your bet size was good IMO.
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Old 09-18-2007, 10:40 AM
Mike Kelley Mike Kelley is offline
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Default Re: NL25: Facing Ck Rs with OvrPr w/ Caller still to act

Grunch

Villain raises top 3% I would assume he would 3bet AA,QQ,AK possibly call with 99-JJ,AQs

I definitely call and Re-eval the turn since AQ is a likely holding here and there are way more combinations of AQ than JJ
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Old 09-18-2007, 10:51 AM
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Default Re: NL25: Facing Ck Rs with OvrPr w/ Caller still to act

I like the bet on the flop and think this is a fold. Villain is 10/3/1.1 and hasn't check-raised yet. I think you're behind often enough that you let this go here.
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Old 09-18-2007, 11:18 AM
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Default Re: NL25: Facing Ck Rs with OvrPr w/ Caller still to act

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Grunch

Villain raises top 3% I would assume he would 3bet AA,QQ,AK possibly call with 99-JJ,AQs

I definitely call and Re-eval the turn since AQ is a likely holding here and there are way more combinations of AQ than JJ

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I would do same. There is two hands what I really fear: JJ, 77 and maybe even JQ.
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Old 09-18-2007, 12:15 PM
Dennisa Dennisa is offline
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Default Re: NL25: Facing Ck Rs with OvrPr w/ Caller still to act

[ QUOTE ]
Grunch

Villain raises top 3% I would assume he would 3bet AA,QQ,AK possibly call with 99-JJ,AQs

I definitely call and Re-eval the turn since AQ is a likely holding here and there are way more combinations of AQ than JJ

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A 10/3 will also setmine with 77. You have to add that to his range. Also oop the 10/3 may not 3 bet QQ here.
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Old 09-18-2007, 12:21 PM
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Default Re: NL25: Facing Ck Rs with OvrPr w/ Caller still to act

Fold or hang tough. Call or raise the bet. These are decisions you make at the table. Sometimes the odds are stacked so clear there's only one way to play it. Other times, like holding a small pair against two over cards, it's six to five, or even money, either way. Then it's all about feel, what's in your guts.
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