200NL - Bet sizing with two pair

tbaarslag · #1 09-17-2007, 07:29 PM

Sorry if this is too basic. Villain is loose and somewhat passive. N/m pf.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed)

UTG ($197.95)
MP ($91.00)
CO ($239.63)
Hero ($329.20)
SB ($322.47)
BB ($367.85)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises to $7, SB raises to $15, 1 fold, Hero calls $8.

Flop: ($32) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $22, SB calls $22.

Turn: ($76) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $66, SB calls $66.

River: ($208) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $???

I put him on any ace or better.

What is the ideal bet sizing here to get value? I may bet too much atm.

SpecT · #2 09-17-2007, 07:38 PM

shoving is pot right?

shove

cs3 · #3 09-17-2007, 07:39 PM

the thing is if hes calling the river, hes likely calling any bet size. i just shove and expect him to call with his AK/AQ.
all other hands fold to any bet anyway

tbaarslag · #4 09-17-2007, 07:42 PM

Shoving would be a slight ($219) overbet

Casper05 · #5 09-17-2007, 07:44 PM

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Shoving would be a slight ($219) overbet

[/ QUOTE ]this is the only thing wrong with the hand. slightly more on the flop means you can bet 2X that on the turn, making a river shove look natural.

ofishstix · #6 09-17-2007, 07:46 PM

24 -> 68 -> shove

Halcion · #7 09-17-2007, 07:46 PM

$200 pot you have the nuts no way he places you on nuts due to betting pattern obv bet 60-75% of pot he folds he folds he'll either call since his called down to showdown or he'll push.

tbaarslag · #8 09-17-2007, 07:50 PM

What?

cs3 · #9 09-17-2007, 07:50 PM

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24 -> 68 -> shove

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exactly, i think its important to note that flop and turn bets should be sized a little larger so that river is an easier/more natural looking shove.
this isnt discussed a whole lot but its something that i see lots of people not pay attention to. pot size manipulation is soooo important

tbaarslag · #10 09-17-2007, 07:52 PM

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24 -> 68 -> shove

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Thanks, do you actually calculate this on the flop already?