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Old 09-17-2007, 04:09 PM
Hoopster81 Hoopster81 is offline
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Default flop line?

Villain is 45/22/3.5 over 450 hands. 85% c-bet.

I lost a pot right before and couldn't get the reload in time.

Full Tilt Poker - Pot Limit Omaha Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $510.20
BB: $212.00
UTG: $50.75
MP: $215.80
CO: $334.10
Hero (BTN): $181.80

Preflop: Hero is dealt 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $6.00</font>, Hero calls $6.00, SB calls $5.00, BB calls $4.00

Flop: ($24) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">CO bets $18.00</font>, Hero?
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Old 09-17-2007, 04:24 PM
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Default Re: flop line?

No real 'standard' line here, apart from the fact that you shouldn't be folding. You can call and then fold if there's heavy checkraising action, but you won't have any idea where you are on the turn in that case. Was CO regularly c-betting with air against 3 villains on drawy boards? Raising is fine occasionally, heavily overrepping your hand and potentially getting better hands and better draws to be folding, but I don't think you should be doing this the majority of the time. I'd say about 25% raises 75% calls is about right here. When you raise, you definitely don't need to go with the full pot, something like 70% of the pot is fine.
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Old 09-17-2007, 05:15 PM
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Default Re: flop line?

Listen to what wazz has to say.

He is a solid Omaha Player [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 09-17-2007, 07:02 PM
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Default Re: flop line?

As the villain cbets so often, the key stat is that of the other two callers. If they are cr addicts, then a raise by you could lead to some regrets. In most cases in this kind of pot you want to do what our NLHE friends call pot control. Try and keep the pot small, in position.

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Old 09-17-2007, 07:41 PM
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Default Re: flop line?

i repot this a decent amount of the time and try to take it down now. calling isn't a bad option and you certainly should be sometimes.
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Old 09-18-2007, 02:35 AM
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i repot this a decent amount of the time and try to take it down now. calling isn't a bad option and you certainly should be sometimes.

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I raise this a decent amount of the time HU against this villain, but here with the two other players and a myriad of draws out (albeit we have some good blockers), the check/raise could get us in a nasty spot. There is pretty much no big pot that we could play here where we aren't a heavy underdog. I would call this most of the time and then bet most of the time if checked to by villain and we're the only two left in the pot. If it's still multiway on the turn, it obviously depends a lot on the non-villain player (ie. will they call a big turn bet with a draw or top-two or something like that).
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Old 09-18-2007, 02:37 AM
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Full Tilt Poker - Pot Limit Omaha Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $510.20
BB: $212.00
UTG: $50.75
MP: $215.80
CO: $334.10
Hero (BTN): $181.80

Preflop: Hero is dealt 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $6.00</font>, Hero calls $6.00, SB calls $5.00, BB calls $4.00

Flop: ($24) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">CO bets $18.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $48.00</font>, 2 folds, CO calls $30.00

Turn: ($120) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $80.00</font>, Hero folds
Uncalled bet of $80.00 returned to CO

Pot Size: $120.00 ($3 Rake)
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Old 09-18-2007, 02:44 AM
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Default Re: flop line?

Turn fold looks completely standard. We have effectively 0 fold equity and our pot equity is most like not big enough to call/push
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