AJo from BB Short Handed - pf play

n1_pete · #1 09-17-2007, 04:07 AM

Table very passive. no pf raises in previous 10 hands i've observed.
Villain is loose calling station - often in the river.
Table is 6 handed.
(sorry no stats. new laptop and waiting for PT website to come back online to download it)

0.15/0.30 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.15.
UTG calls, 1 fold, CO (poster) checks, 1 fold, SB (Villain)/ completes, Hero checks.
# pf bothers me. at the time given passive nature of table i was worried bet from BB would scare off players.

Flop: (7 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Villain checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, CO folds, SB (Villain)/ calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Villain checks, Hero bets, UTG folds, Villain calls.
# plan b/f here

River: (5.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Villain checks, Hero ???

Final Pot: 7.50 BB

rest of hand i think was ok. but pre-flop tho, bet or check??

Ulkis · #2 09-17-2007, 04:26 AM

PF I would raise, but as played
flop and turn ok,
river b/c

tyler_cracker · #3 09-17-2007, 05:04 AM

really really really really easy value bet.

and raise pf.

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at the time given passive nature of table i was worried bet from BB would scare off players.

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lol?

n1_pete · #4 09-17-2007, 06:43 AM

yeah. definitely lol (after ranting at myself). weaker than a wet paper towel on the pf. got the value bet in on the river and all worked out fine.

knew i'd learn something today. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] thanks.

Hi5 · #5 09-17-2007, 06:47 AM

Allow me to explain the lol. In our experience, almost noone limp-folds for 1 bet preflop in LHE. You are more likely to scare players if you're never raising here without QQ+, although I doubt many of your opponents would pay attention anyway. Preflop is a value raise and the river is a value bet (bet-call as Ulkis has suggested).

n1_pete · #6 09-17-2007, 07:10 AM

got it. thanks Hi5.

Smurph64 · #7 09-17-2007, 09:48 AM

I don't get the question?

I have a hand that beats so much crap its ridiculous, I get callers coming out of my ass giving me all kinds of free money and I wonder if I should bet it? I guess in this case checking it down to the river is good because someone could have hit a fh on the river.

I serious wonder if you should be playing 6 max table.

Number 1 plan on the turn bet/fold? Are you kidding me?

This is a joke yes?

Sushiglutton · #8 09-17-2007, 10:03 AM

After a long time debating these types of hands I have decided I prefer to check AJo, KQo fom the BB agasit 3 opps. But raising is the correct play equity-wise pf. I just find post-flop goes so much better if I don't raise here.

Smurph64 · #9 09-17-2007, 10:08 AM

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After a long time debating these types of hands I have decided I prefer to check AJo, KQo fom the BB agasit 3 opps. But raising is the correct play equity-wise pf. I just find post-flop goes so much better if I don't raise here.

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once in awhile that is reasonable where you can donk a miss coming out but that depends on your opponents and your play style as its perceived by the opponents.

To assume this brain dead crowd has a clue to what you are doing is seriously a big mistake.

n1_pete · #10 09-17-2007, 11:05 AM

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After a long time debating these types of hands I have decided I prefer to check AJo, KQo fom the BB agasit 3 opps. But raising is the correct play equity-wise pf. I just find post-flop goes so much better if I don't raise here.

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this was my thinking at the time. now stands corrected.