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Old 09-16-2007, 11:03 PM
dboy23 dboy23 is offline
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Default Standard call? $55 NLTRN

legopoker wont convert this hand for some reason.

Reads:
He almost always raises and reraises any pair. He has 4bet allin with 22 before.


Seat 1: dboy23 (1,425)
Seat 2: C in C (1,575)
C in C posts the small blind of 15
dboy23 posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to dboy23 [Ah Kh]
C in C raises to 90
dboy23 raises to 270
C in C calls 180
*** FLOP *** [Js 8s 4h]
dboy23 bets 270
C in C raises to 1,305, and is all in
<font color="blue">???</font> dboy23 calls 885, and is all in

getting 2.3:1.

Also can someone refresh me on how to calc what % i need to be against his range for it to breakeven?
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Old 09-16-2007, 11:05 PM
dboy23 dboy23 is offline
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Default Re: Standard call? $55 NLTRN

I got 31% the way I did it, but I have no idea if it is right.
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Old 09-16-2007, 11:29 PM
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Default Re: Standard call? $55 NLTRN

You're getting ~2.38:1 pot odds which is equivalent to ~ 1/(2.38+1)=1/3.38=29.585%
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Old 09-16-2007, 11:40 PM
abcjnich abcjnich is offline
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Default Re: Standard call? $55 NLTRN

Why not just raise half your stack or more pf if you're getting it in on this flop.

50bb poker sucks. I flat call here preflop, I don't care that I have ak. Stack sizes suck for anything else, except maybe a 3bet to &lt;220.
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Old 09-16-2007, 11:51 PM
derosnec derosnec is offline
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Default Re: Standard call? $55 NLTRN

i would check that flop

as far as calling, this is a jack a big % of the time, and a draw X% of the time (probably a good one too)
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Old 09-17-2007, 12:36 AM
HokieGreg HokieGreg is offline
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Default Re: Standard call? $55 NLTRN

[ QUOTE ]
Why not just raise half your stack or more pf if you're getting it in on this flop.

50bb poker sucks. I flat call here preflop, I don't care that I have ak. Stack sizes suck for anything else, except maybe a 3bet to &lt;220.

[/ QUOTE ]

flat calling is horrible

so you miss the flop 2/3 of the time and check/fold?
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Old 09-17-2007, 12:38 AM
ChicagoRy ChicagoRy is offline
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Default Re: Standard call? $55 NLTRN

Didn't you post this hand in the LC thread or something similar where it said "villain is angry?"
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Old 09-17-2007, 02:29 AM
dboy23 dboy23 is offline
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Default Re: Standard call? $55 NLTRN

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Didn't you post this hand in the LC thread or something similar where it said "villain is angry?"

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No this is a different hand.

I'm trying to get a second opinion on this.

1. What do you guys think of the call?

2. Is there a better line pf agaisnt a loose button raiser with AK? The 270 3bet doesn't give set odds. Less gives set odds, more discourages action.


3. Is there a better cbet ammount?

I find myself committed in these spots alot.
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Old 09-17-2007, 02:45 AM
xSCWx xSCWx is offline
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Default Re: Standard call? $55 NLTRN

I think the best lines here are either:

A) Raise more preflop so you can open shove the flop.
B) Reraise all in preflop.
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Old 09-17-2007, 02:47 AM
derosnec derosnec is offline
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Default Re: Standard call? $55 NLTRN

270 is fine. don't cbet. people cbet way too much out of position, esp on these terrible flops.

edit: i'm open-minded of course, so if someone can give me a good reason to c-bet here, i'm all ears. i just don't see it as being profitable though.
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