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Old 09-16-2007, 07:52 PM
pacman2k7 pacman2k7 is offline
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Default NL25, should I shot a second barrel here?

Villain is 19/15/3.5 83%Cont bet.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $37.52
BB: $31.64
Hero (UTG): $25.76
MP: $34.93
CO: $49.90
BTN: $169.86

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $1.00</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $3.00</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $2.00

Flop: ($6.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4.50</font>, SB calls $4.50

Turn: ($15.25) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero ??
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Old 09-16-2007, 07:54 PM
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Default Re: NL25, should I shot a second barrel here?

checks, c/f river
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Old 09-16-2007, 07:55 PM
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Default Re: NL25, should I shot a second barrel here?

I check behind, you aren't ahead of much that he 3-bets you with. I think JJ-KK make up most of his range.
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Old 09-16-2007, 07:56 PM
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Default Re: NL25, should I shot a second barrel here?

why? seems like he has JJ QQ or KK with a second barrel I can win the pot here.
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Old 09-16-2007, 07:57 PM
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Default Re: NL25, should I shot a second barrel here?

No,

Just check it down, try to get to the river as cheap as you can.

I would fold on the turn to any real strength.
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Old 09-16-2007, 07:59 PM
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Default Re: NL25, should I shot a second barrel here?

try to get to the river as cheap as you can.

Get to the river cheap, against JJ+ that makes no sense to me..
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Old 09-16-2007, 08:03 PM
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Default Re: NL25, should I shot a second barrel here?

He called 4.5 on the flop, he may be calling down, or slow playing AA. Either way, its expensive to find out if you are wrong, I just check this down and fold to all river bets 50%+ in pot size. You need a read that he will 3-bet hands worse than AQ+, JJ+ to think you are good here. And 80% of uNL players can't make this fold w/ KK or QQ.
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Old 09-16-2007, 08:10 PM
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Default Re: NL25, should I shot a second barrel here?

And 80% of uNL players can't make this fold w/ KK or QQ.

This is my problem,why??

Should I also check the flop??
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Old 09-16-2007, 08:33 PM
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Default Re: NL25, should I shot a second barrel here?

I really think this is a marginal betting spot and it would depend heavily on my perceived image.

When you say 80% C-bet.. do you mean he C-bets 80% of the time or he calls C-bets 80% of the time?

If he C-bets 80% of the time, and didn't on this flop, I really think you could be looking at AA. Someone who is c-betting 80% of the time is probably going to continue doing it here with AK-AJ, KK, QQ, JJ.

Like everyone is saying, they're are times to make moves and times not to. If you like the variance, go ahead and bet out here and try and take it down. I prefer to check behind and re-evaluate on the river (although any bet he makes on the river you pretty much have to fold to).
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Old 09-16-2007, 08:39 PM
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Default Re: NL25, should I shot a second barrel here?

If you know his 3 bet range is just the big pairs and NOT decent aces then I think a second barrel might work. For this to be profitable I would like some sort of stat on my HUD which shows he has a low went to showdown percentage (ie. he is the sort of player who can let go of JJ-KK on this board).

I reckon more players than you think will lay down JJ-KK but as others have said it does cost you a lot when you are wrong.
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