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Old 09-16-2007, 04:42 AM
mephisto mephisto is offline
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Default top set vs straight vs gutshot+NFD 3 way ai on flop equity Q

Full Tilt Poker Game #3578220759: Table Eginton (6 max) - $200/$400 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 4:19:40 ET - 2007/09/16
Seat 1: fish4rice ($7,400)
Seat 2: sbrugby ($83,977)
Seat 3: Daduv4 ($96,004.50), is sitting out
Seat 4: Ziigmund ($87,594)
Seat 5: David Benyamine ($28,774)
Seat 6: Thomas Wahlroos ($30,564)
Ziigmund posts the small blind of $200
David Benyamine posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Thomas Wahlroos raises to $1,400
fish4rice folds
fish4rice stands up
sbrugby folds
Ziigmund calls $1,200
David Benyamine raises to $5,600
Thomas Wahlroos raises to $16,400
Ziigmund has 15 seconds left to act
Ziigmund has requested TIME
Ziigmund calls $15,000
David Benyamine calls $10,800
*** FLOP *** [9c Jd Kd]
Ziigmund checks
David Benyamine bets $12,374, and is all in
Thomas Wahlroos raises to $14,164, and is all in
Ziigmund calls $14,164
Thomas Wahlroos shows [7d Ts Ad As]
Ziigmund shows [Th 9s Qc 7s]
David Benyamine shows [Kh 3d 3c Kc]


Okay, so I ran the equity %'s at twodimes.net and this is what it came out with:

pokenum -o kh 3d 3c kc - th 9s qc 7s - ad as 7d ts -- 9c jd kd
Omaha Hi: 666 enumerated boards containing 9c Kd Jd
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Kc 3c 3d Kh 254 38.14 412 61.86 0 0.00 0.381
9s 7s Qc Th 186 27.93 476 71.47 4 0.60 0.282
As Ts Ad 7d 222 33.33 440 66.07 4 0.60 0.336

As a omaha newb, can someone please explain to me how top set has more equity than the made straight on this board? I can at least see where thomas' equity is coming from but not Benyamine's (as slight favorite).

In NLHE top set vs made straight the equity is quite different:

pokenum -h kh kc - th qc -- 9c jd kd
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing 9c Kd Jd
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Kc Kh 341 34.44 640 64.65 9 0.91 0.349
Qc Th 640 64.65 341 34.44 9 0.91 0.651
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Old 09-16-2007, 05:20 AM
RoundTower RoundTower is offline
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Default Re: top set vs straight vs gutshot+NFD 3 way ai on flop equity Q

It is no different from holdem - why did you leave the third hand out of the HE calculation? If you run KK vs AdTd vs QT in the HE simulation you will get very close to the same answers.

basically, if the KK hits he is guaranteed to win, while the QT needs to hit runner runner blanks.
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