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Old 09-15-2007, 09:56 PM
SpleenLSD SpleenLSD is offline
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Default Line OK? Jax on the button

Villan is 25/3.5/.5 over 60 hands, garbage range.


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 ($22.80)
MP2 ($48)
MP3 ($15.90)
Villan (CO) ($33.40)
Hero (Button) ($75.65)
SB ($47.75)
BB ($11.40)
UTG ($24.85)
UTG+1 ($65.40)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, CO calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $7</font>, CO calls $7.

Turn: ($18.75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $14</font>, CO calls $14.

River: ($46.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $46.75
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Old 09-15-2007, 10:00 PM
Hail Eris Hail Eris is offline
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Default Re: Line OK? Jax on the button

Hate the flop overbet.
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Old 09-16-2007, 03:47 AM
bknollenberg bknollenberg is offline
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Default Re: Line OK? Jax on the button

maybe this is a generalization but whenever i see an overbet on a flop like this, it usually always defines the hand as a pocket pair 1 and MAYBE 2 above the top card, ie. 478 flop, it's 99, etc. i dunno if it's a psychological thing where people feel they need to bet so much because so many cards are above theirs or whatever, but i've just noticed it.

i think potting the flop, 3/4 pot - pot on the turn and check on river is fine.
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Old 09-16-2007, 04:09 AM
mookboi mookboi is offline
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Default Re: Line OK? Jax on the button

More preflop.
Less flop (3/4th pot is standard)
Turn/River standard.
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Old 09-16-2007, 04:42 AM
ReNoRyan ReNoRyan is offline
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Default Re: Line OK? Jax on the button

Flop bet kinda sux, turn and river look good though.
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Old 09-16-2007, 08:37 PM
SpleenLSD SpleenLSD is offline
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Default Re: Line OK? Jax on the button

I overbet the flop trying to get rid of the villan and I guess the appearance of strength looks like weakness.

For the record, villan had (in white) <font color="white"> 97 offsuit </font>
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Old 09-16-2007, 08:54 PM
aaiiooo aaiiooo is offline
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Default Re: Line OK? Jax on the button

'Getting rid of the villain' is not a reason to overbet the flop. Are you trying to make your hand look even stronger than it is? In which case you're trying to get him to fold hands such as a10/k10 that you should be getting value from.

You should be happy if he calls a normal cbet with a gutshot, or even what he had.
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