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Dankenstein · #1 09-14-2007, 02:28 PM

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, Hero raises, 1 fold, MP3 calls, 1 fold, Button calls, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (11 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB bets, UTG+1 calls, Hero raises, MP3 folds, Button calls, SB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero calls, Button folds, SB folds.

River: (11.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 bets, Hero ??????.

tyler_cracker · #2 09-14-2007, 02:43 PM

the turn is marginal.

what do you hope he has on the river? QQ?

Dankenstein · #3 09-14-2007, 02:53 PM

UTG+1 in this hand is 80% vpip since he sat down (60 hands) He basically plays any 2 cards from any position. It was really difficult for me to tell what he had and what he was going for.

tyler_cracker · #4 09-14-2007, 03:25 PM

do you think that "read" might have been relevant enough to post?

regardless, his vpip doesn't tell us what to do when he donks the turn. most guys like that are quite passive, though, so when he donks the turned A you are usually boned.

CrMenace · #5 09-14-2007, 05:20 PM

grunch:

turn donk usul. reptresents an A here, but occassionally an FD. Often enough that when the pot is large, call down.

voyamatarte · #6 09-14-2007, 06:47 PM

Grunch:

The donk bet normally means that he caught his ace, but the pot is big enough to call down. The river spade dosn't scare me, he isint donking his flush draw on the turn there. Call down from the turn, and next time get better reads so you know what a db means from this guy.

voyamatarte · #7 09-14-2007, 06:48 PM

Yeah, post that read. I've found people who play that many hands play basically every Ace that falls in their hand.

OziBattler · #8 09-14-2007, 07:56 PM

when you call the turn you need to realise that you are basically commiting at least 2BB to see SD.

Landonfan · #9 09-14-2007, 08:05 PM

Grunch.

He's probably not bluffing into three players here. Not to mention you have two players left behind you. Just fold the turn.

Also, vpip is fairly useless here without knowing how he plays postflop. He can be really loose, but just be loose-passive, in which case you're [censored]. Give us his AF if nothing else, but preferably some more specific reads.

Bigka79 · #10 09-14-2007, 11:28 PM

Grunch.

i dont think u can ever call this turn and fold a river. i think once we call the turn we make a firm decision to call a river.

way played i call the river.

i would fold the turn though because this is a ballsy bluff if it is and i dont think it is