Five folds at 5/10

jt1 · #1 09-13-2007, 09:42 PM

1. Villain is 33/15/1.3 after 150 hands

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Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG caps, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (14.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Hero folds, BB calls.

Turn: (8.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, BB folds.

Final Pot: 8.25 BB

2. Villian is 46/25/.7 after 37 hands and winning a ton

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Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, 3 folds, UTG caps, Hero calls.

Flop: (11.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 5.75 BB

3. Villain is 44/10/1.3 after 379 hands winning 12 big bets

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Preflop: Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, Button folds, BB raises, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 4.25 BB

4. Villain is a TAG who can c/r the turn in a blind battle with just a gutshot and then bet the river.

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Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises, 2 folds, SB 3-bets, 1 fold, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

River: (6.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 6.75 BB

5. Villain is 29/21/1.92 after 197 hands and winning 40 bb

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Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
4 folds, Hero raises, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero calls.

River: (11.25 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 11.25 BB

aceskay · #2 09-13-2007, 09:50 PM

1) Easiest fold ever.
2) Not a bad fold unless you've seen him cap without premium hands before.
3) I don't like this fold bc villain could be semi-bluff raising lots of hands here. Also, you could pick up an open-ended straight draw on the turn as well
4) Given your note, I would probably call bc he might be betting a worse 5, among other missed draws or just ace high.
5) Probably a good fold that is tough to make in the heat of battle. I might be inclined to c/c the river if the ace doesn't hit.

counterspell · #3 09-13-2007, 09:52 PM

hands 1 and 2 are standard imo.

hand 3 i want to show down absent a better read because there are lots of draws we can put him on.

hand 4 is a spot i hate but usually pay off. a lot of the tags on full tilt 5/10 are pretty bad.

fold hand 5 pf for sure if you aren't comfortable limping it. as played, please call the river. this is a great board for people with tag stats to spazz on.

milesdyson · #4 09-13-2007, 09:55 PM

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1. Villain is 33/15/1.3 after 150 hands

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Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG caps, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (14.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Hero folds, BB calls.

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standard

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2. Villian is 46/25/.7 after 37 hands and winning a ton

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Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, 3 folds, UTG caps, Hero calls.

Flop: (11.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero folds.

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just find out how many weighted outs you have. intuitively i think this is very close and would likely peel at the table.

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3. Villain is 44/10/1.3 after 379 hands winning 12 big bets

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Preflop: Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, Button folds, BB raises, Hero folds.

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w/o the 567 or the 6d in your hand, this is very routine. again this is another close spot imo. i'd likely call and fold the turn here.

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4. Villain is a TAG who can c/r the turn in a blind battle with just a gutshot and then bet the river.

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Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises, 2 folds, SB 3-bets, 1 fold, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

River: (6.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero folds.

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overall approach to this hand is messed up. people are 3-barreling huge ranges now, so if you plan to fold a total blank river, you should just get out on the turn.

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5. Villain is 29/21/1.92 after 197 hands and winning 40 bb

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Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
4 folds, Hero raises, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero calls.

River: (11.25 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero folds.

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must fold preflop vs good players. and what's the difference between your hand on the flop and turn? you only pulled ahead of a small part of his made hand range. so i have to ask, were you planning on checkraising a 2 turn as well? i guess you do have to call the turn with 4 outs, and the river is probably fine. i tend to not allow myself into these spots on paired boards. i hate to sound weak but i am likely just check calling the turn and river here.

jt1 · #5 09-13-2007, 10:58 PM

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4. Villain is a TAG who can c/r the turn in a blind battle with just a gutshot and then bet the river.

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Preflop: Hero is MP with A, 5.
1 fold, Hero raises, 2 folds, SB 3-bets, 1 fold, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 7, J, 5 (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) Q (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

River: (6.75 BB) 2 (2 players)
SB bets, Hero folds.

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This hand is embarrasing. I was planning on raising the turn but the broadway froze me and i was caught in no-mans land.

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3. Villain is 44/10/1.3 after 379 hands winning 12 big bets

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Preflop: Hero is CO with 6, 6.
2 folds, Hero raises, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 5, 7, A (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, Button folds, BB raises, Hero folds.

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Here I went solely on his AF numbers. I felt that a guy who's been winning with nearly 400 hands and a small AF is likely to be too passive to semi-bluff. But truly, I think I put too much stock in AF. I can see calling down here with the 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Overall, though, I feel good that no one called me a tight/weak nit. I've been worried that I'm folding a lot of winners and hopefully this means that my judgement isn't horrible.

Stealing with T6o isn't standard for me but either the guy folds to a steal HU near 50% or I just momentarily forgot my stealing standards.