1-2NL FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT

[MyPTBB100isPOOP]

Assume you made the mistake of getting involved with this hand in this fashion, vs a 24/18, agressive opener. Assume he bets at least 50% of his range on this flop, which is prob like 66+,A5s+,K9s+,Q9s+,J9s+,ATo+,KTo+,QTo+. For the sake of argument, is a call better, or a raise better and why do you believe so? I think a raise is best because it will FOLD OUT ALL THE HANDS WE BEAT. OR is it best equity wise to wait for a blank to fall on the turn, have it check to us so we can bet and fold out hands that we beat?

SB: $323.15
BB: $187.00
UTG: $148.70
CO: $199.00
Hero (BTN): $227.90

Preflop: Hero is dealt Ad2d(5 Players)
UTG folds, CO raises to $8.00, Hero calls $8.00, SB folds, BB calls $6.00

Flop: ($25) 3c9cAc (3 Players)
BB folds, CO bets $17.00, Hero.....

[kolotoure]

How is making a raise where every worse hand folds and every better hand calls a good idea?

[MyPTBB100isPOOP]

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How is making a raise where every worse hand folds and every better hand calls a good idea?

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this is the point that i wanted to argue about, but i want a few others to chime in first. Its something i thought alot about last night, and it has to do with these kind of board textures. Give it some thought, but im convinced its a good thing......

[amoeba]

I'm more questioning of your read that he bets 50% of his holdings on this monotone multiway flop.

[MyPTBB100isPOOP]

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I'm more questioning of your read that he bets 50% of his holdings on this monotone multiway flop.

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Although thats not the point of this argument, I can certainly see an aggressive opener raising 36% and firing a cbet with 100% of his range on any flop. I think that would be close to standard. Especially if he concieves it likely that my cc range on the button is like 90% likely to be pps and Suitedcons.

[Unknown Soldier]

you make money by getting the hands that you beat to CALL your bet/raise.

[MyPTBB100isPOOP]

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you make money by getting the hands that you beat to CALL your bet/raise.

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This is of course the stock logic, and id say in most situations that its the most +EV way to think of it. However me posing this question, in my mind, presupposes that i already understand that concept, but am alluding to a different one.

[HERE_2_gamble_]

so its clear, when he(someone) shoves, whadda ya do?

[blackize]

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How is making a raise where every worse hand folds and every better hand calls a good idea?

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1) This isn't true. Better hands fold often here. A5-AT specifically will fold to pressure a lot
2) This raise would be for protection, not value.

[EddieRooo]

Regarding calling and seeing a turn, why makes you so sure he will check and you will bet. If he bets again, then dumping the hand is fine and hasn't cost you what a raise would have done on the flop. If he checks then you put him on a range and maybe you don't necessarily bet and take it down there, you might think he has a draw and bet for protection, or check and see if he fires(/bluffs) the river, depending on what you now think of his range.