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Maximum Value on Pocket 3\'s?
Played this hand last night and wondered after what mistakes I made. I've recently switched from NLHE to LHE so my play is really far from optimum. Trying to learn, I'd like opinions on what I could have done differently/better. Thanks.
Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 Limit Hold'em HERO has 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, HERO calls, LP raises, CO calls, BUTTON calls, SB folds, BB calls, UTG reraises, MP1 calls, HERO calls, LP calls, CO calls, BUTTON calls, BB calls, (Pot = $5.35) FLOP: [2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] BB checks, UTG bets, MP1 folds, HERO raises, LP calls, CO calls, BUTTON calls, BB folds, UTG calls (Pot = $7.85) TURN: [2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] [7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] UTG checks, HERO bets, LP calls, CO calls, BUTTON calls, UTG calls (Pot = $10.35) RIVER: [2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] [K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] UTG checks, HERO checks, LP checks, CO bets, BUTTON calls, UTG calls, HERO calls, LP folds I did not remember a single hand that was capped or 3-bet in the hour before this hand. Most everyone seems to be in line, however, only a few showdowns so I can't be sure. The initial raiser seemed to me to be a solid player. The PF reraiser had raised the previous 3 hands pre-flop without a showdown. The pot was pretty big for me to call the pre-flop reraise (almost 8:1) so I decided to speculate. I raised on the flop to see where I stood (thinking pocket aces would reraise here). I checked on the turn because surely with the pre-flop action, someone had KK, right? I'm thinking that the pre-flop call was marginal and I could have probably check-raised the river, though at the time I was pretty sure I was beat and wasn't going to give away another bet. Thanks. |
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Re: Maximum Value on Pocket 3\'s?
welcome to the micros. Just bet the river. dont CR since you dont know who, if anyone, will bet. rest looks fine.
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Re: Maximum Value on Pocket 3\'s?
pf is fine. On the flop, the pot's probably too big to protect your hand, so just bet and raise every street for value.
Please bet this river. In lhe, getting full value on your big hands is ridiculously important. A good rule of thumb is when you have a huge hand, put bunches of monies in the pot. |
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Re: Maximum Value on Pocket 3\'s?
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welcome to the micros. Just bet the river. dont CR since you dont know who, if anyone, will bet. rest looks fine. [/ QUOTE ] He didn't even c/r the river. He c/c'd. Requiem aeternam dona eis, Domine, et lux perpetua luceat eis. In loving memory of the kitten killed by not betting the river. |
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Re: Maximum Value on Pocket 3\'s?
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He didn't even c/r the river. He c/c'd. [/ QUOTE ] true but he considered it. [ QUOTE ] I could have probably check-raised the river, though at the time I was pretty sure I was beat and wasn't going to give away another bet [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: Maximum Value on Pocket 3\'s?
And yeah, fearing KK on this river is horrible poker. The PFRer isn't even the one who bet the river, nor was it the UTG LRR! The CO bet, and all he did preflop was call twice. He has KK or AA virtually never.
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Re: Maximum Value on Pocket 3\'s?
With so many in the pot river is an easy raise.
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Re: Maximum Value on Pocket 3\'s?
i have a slight objection to your preflop call. in no limit, i feel like small pocket pairs have a much higher implied value, but in limit, when there is only one limper and you are in MP3, i feel that you should avoid limping with that hand because you're not going to win anything unimproved and out of position. the biggest reason is that you are potentially putting yourself in a position where you now have to call more bets preflop when somebody raises. there are 5 players after you and someone could easily raise. you got caught up in a limp raise which i think is rare and unfortunate, but even for just one more bet, i think you are losing EV there. pocket 3's is a hand that you want to see cheap flops with. if the game is very passive preflop, like everyone limping, then you could probably use that and implied odds to justify a call. as played, i feel that your check call was correct because of the size of the pot(big). i suppose it was an overcall because somebody called before you and they can't be bluffing, so you have to have fairly strong hand in this spot. hopefully you were against like AK suited and QQ, or maybe UTG just lost his mind with 8-10 suited, but that's more likely during live play. welcome to the limit community, get your abacus out.
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Re: Maximum Value on Pocket 3\'s?
I play it exactly the same as you, except for the river. I'd be betting that puppy since you probably have the best hand. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Re: Maximum Value on Pocket 3\'s?
yeah i play this the same but bet the river.
what was your thinking on a c/c on this river? |
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