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09-11-2007, 06:59 PM
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$12 FT 180, 66 facing an all in from shortstack and call from donkey..
PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t3000 with t300 antes (7 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com
UTG (t23800) UTG+1 (t9702) MP1 (t104999) Hero (t24222) Button (t53372) SB (t21949) BB (t31956) Preflop: Hero is in CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to t9402 (All-in)</font>, MP1 calls t9402, Hero ... MP1 is a complete and utter donkey who hits every card under the sun and no way is folding if I push. UTG+1 is on like A2+/22+/broadway/K7+/Q9/and maybe J9/T9/98... thoughts? 
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#3
09-11-2007, 07:52 PM
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Re: $12 FT 180, 66 facing an all in from shortstack and call from donkey..
If your read is correct then a shove would be +Ev I think. However, your read has to be pretty damn correct a very high percentage of the time to make it +Ev. If your that sure then I am behind a push.
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#5
09-11-2007, 08:01 PM
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Re: $12 FT 180, 66 facing an all in from shortstack and call from donkey..
If we are +cEV why would we wait for a better spot, especially in a turbo where blinds get up so quickly and it very quickly becomes a donkfest with lots of all in's. If we win this pot then we will have quite a few chips to work with and could very well catapult(sp) us to the top three.
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#6
09-11-2007, 09:02 PM
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Re: $12 FT 180, 66 facing an all in from shortstack and call from donkey..
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PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t3000 with t300 antes (7 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com UTG (t23800) UTG+1 (t9702) MP1 (t104999) Hero (t24222) Button (t53372) SB (t21949) BB (t31956) Preflop: Hero is in CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to t9402 (All-in)</font>, MP1 calls t9402, Hero ... MP1 is a complete and utter donkey who hits every card under the sun and no way is folding if I push. UTG+1 is on like A2+/22+/broadway/K7+/Q9/and maybe J9/T9/98... thoughts? [/ QUOTE ] I think u have to get it in here. You have 33% equity in the main pot if you are against two unparied hands (4 overcards) 43% if they share an overcard. The side pot is worth 30K as well. You only have 8BBs to start the hand, so u can't pass this opp to almost triple up.
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#8
09-11-2007, 09:51 PM
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Re: $12 FT 180, 66 facing an all in from shortstack and call from donkey..
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If we are +cEV why would we wait for a better spot, especially in a turbo where blinds get up so quickly and it very quickly becomes a donkfest with lots of all in's. If we win this pot then we will have quite a few chips to work with and could very well catapult(sp) us to the top three. [/ QUOTE ]Cause it's very slightly + if at all and when you lose you're out (probably more than half the time). There's still plenty of open push FE to be had in future hands.
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#9
09-11-2007, 10:09 PM
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Re: $12 FT 180, 66 facing an all in from shortstack and call from donkey..
Swallow hard and call.
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#10
09-12-2007, 06:19 AM
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Re: $12 FT 180, 66 facing an all in from shortstack and call from donk
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Swallow hard and call. [/ QUOTE ] Can you explain the logic and thought process in this play? Also the guy is a massive donkey like betting into a dry sidepot with no hand donkey.
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