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Old 09-10-2007, 04:04 AM
Gurravasa Gurravasa is offline
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Default TPTK get 3-bet on flop.

SB is 57/21.5/1.1 over 130 hands, notes on him that he bets BP in position on flop in limped pot. He also donked BP on a A-high flop against a pf-raiser.

Only 30 hands on BB with 66/23/0.8, only note so far is that he donked river when he hit an Ace.

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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, 2 folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6SB, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero?
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Old 09-10-2007, 04:11 AM
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Default Re: TPTK get 3-bet on flop.

Cap dat skat.
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Old 09-10-2007, 12:28 PM
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Default Re: TPTK get 3-bet on flop.

I cap the flop, heart and straight draws out there that BB could have, not to mention him trying to "protect" something like KQ or QJ.

I definitely slow down on the turn though if a heart hits.
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Old 09-10-2007, 12:38 PM
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Default Re: TPTK get 3-bet on flop.

They are lag-tards so you are ahead of their range. Cap-time.
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Old 09-10-2007, 12:45 PM
Gurravasa Gurravasa is offline
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Default Re: TPTK get 3-bet on flop.

yepp pretty standard I guess, just checking...
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Old 09-10-2007, 12:56 PM
ILOVEPOKER929 ILOVEPOKER929 is offline
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Default Re: TPTK get 3-bet on flop.

Either call the flop and raise the turn cuz you love your hand, or call down cuz youre scared.

I would never cap the flop in this spot becuz this strategy is dominated by another strategy if we make one very realistic assumption. Assuming the SB is not folding a pair to a flop cap, getting alot to 1, waiting to raise the turn gives us the best combination of value and maximum protection in what is now a large pot.

A few other ancillary benefits to not capping the flop is we get to see if SB caps or not which can help us refine our turn strategy, and if a a bad card like a heart hits the turn we can always revert to a "get to the showdown cheaply" strategy if we believe our hand is no longer valuable enough to be worth protecting.
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Old 09-10-2007, 01:24 PM
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Default Re: TPTK get 3-bet on flop.

"I would never cap the flop in this spot becuz this strategy is dominated by another strategy if we make one very realistic assumption. "

ding ding ding
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Old 09-10-2007, 03:37 PM
Gurravasa Gurravasa is offline
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Default Re: TPTK get 3-bet on flop.

[ QUOTE ]
"I would never cap the flop in this spot becuz this strategy is dominated by another strategy if we make one very realistic assumption. "

ding ding ding

[/ QUOTE ]

what are you talking about?
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Old 09-10-2007, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: TPTK get 3-bet on flop.

I always cap the flop here, but ILP does make a good point.
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Old 09-10-2007, 04:03 PM
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Default Re: TPTK get 3-bet on flop.

I prefer calling and raising a non k/heart turn.

Regardless of what we do here, what are we doing if it's 2 bets to us on a blank turn?
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