QQ flops trips, faces scary river

aceskay · #1 09-09-2007, 08:41 PM

Villain is 34/25/2.5 over small sample of 35 hands. Am I losing tons of value by not raising this river?

When villain went to town on the turn, I figured he either hit the straight, or hit a pair to go with his flush draw, something like A6 of hearts. I don't think he has 55 or 22, bc wouldn't he have capped on the flop with those 2 holdings?

Should I lead on the river, instead of c/c. I think that I probably should've gone bet/call on the river.

Thoughts?

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, Button calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero raises, Button 3-bets, Hero caps, Button calls.

River: (13.75 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 15.75 BB

Absolution · #2 09-09-2007, 09:00 PM

The button having 55/22 is exactly consistent with his play and stats. He's slightly too loose and aggressive. That means he likes to cold call too much and he probably does it with small pairs because he thinks limit is like NL. He probably also does it with suited connectors. Once you 3-bet him on the flop he was going for the raise on the turn, which is a good play. Once you played it weird and checked he just bet it himself. You should have bet out on the turn to be consistent with your flop play and then 3-bet. You should also lead the river and just call a raise like you said. He could possible play a combo draw on the turn like this since he's obviously overaggressive, but I think a set (or even a 2 pair like 56s) is more likely.

Edit: I just noticed the sample size. All you can really say is that he is probably aggressive. I still like the advice I gave.

kimchi · #3 09-09-2007, 09:31 PM

Villain seems pretty aggro, so after 3 betting the flop, I'd bet out the turn and cap if given the chance.

I think betting out on the river and calling a raise is appropriate here.

mvoss · #4 09-10-2007, 02:48 AM

I'd bet the river and call a raise. WTF is with the turn c/r, wouldn't you just love to see villain check the turn through?

aceskay · #5 09-10-2007, 11:26 AM

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WTF is with the turn c/r, wouldn't you just love to see villain check the turn through?

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FPS definitely got the best of me at that moment. For some reason, I thought, I'll c/r, so it might come across as some crazy bluff attempt, instead of jamming to get as much value as possible.

Definitely a bad play though in hindsight.

As for the hand itself, villain had 66, so I was punching myself for not getting in more than 1 bet on the river with set over set.

Wolfram · #6 09-10-2007, 11:32 AM

Major fps on turn. If villain was going for a free turn-card you think he'll suddenly bet it now?

b/c river

jstill · #7 09-10-2007, 11:36 AM

bet call river as played

turn play is stupid I think, Id bet 3bet and if he capped id still cr this river

jba · #8 09-10-2007, 11:37 AM

you play weird

bet the turn

bet the river, now that you didn't c/r. he has an underset or 65 like always, and a flush pretty much never.

NinaWilliams · #9 09-10-2007, 11:59 AM

If he raises the river, should we 3 bet? Villain has an underset very often and a flush very rarely with this action.

danzasmack · #10 09-10-2007, 12:08 PM

nobody puts 34s in his range lolo?

Yes, turn check is very bad. River is a bet/call as played, tbh i timing tell it a bit here and insta-3bet an insta-raise.