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Old 09-09-2007, 04:06 PM
Irishman07 Irishman07 is offline
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Default flopped draw in 3bet pot

Villain is 30/14/1.3. I don't think he's particularly good, but not terrible. I've seen him 3bet a couple times in the 70 or so hands he's been at the table, so he's not too passive preflop. One hand he 3bet on the button and I 4bet him from the blinds and both players folded. I've been playing pretty LAG, around 23/20 and have been raising and taking down a lot of pots. I've had the goods most of the time but haven't shown down a whole lot so my image is probably a little wild.

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

CO ($394.80)
Button ($242.30)
SB ($198)
BB ($195.35)
UTG ($191.80)
Hero ($504.25)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $24</font>, Hero calls $17.

Flop: ($49) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $35</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $82</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $295</font>, BB calls $89.35 (All-In).

Turn: ($515.35) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>
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River: ($515.35) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $515.35


How would you go about this hand? When he checks to me it seems like he's got overcards so I decide to take a shot at taking it down. Once he raises I think I almost have to shove. Even with zero fold equity I only have to be good 34.8% of the time. I think he does this occasionally with overcards since I've been so aggro. I'm thinking maybe I should've checked behind the flop and then fired turn &amp; river if checked to both times and board stays low?
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Old 09-09-2007, 05:47 PM
HoldEmNewby HoldEmNewby is offline
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Default Re: flopped draw in 3bet pot

fold preflop we ain't deep.

Flop is standard given read.
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Old 09-09-2007, 07:18 PM
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Default Re: flopped draw in 3bet pot

fold pre-flop to his 3bet. checking back/betting are both ok as long as you mix it up, but i think given ur table image I check. don't shove over the c/r u have no FE. I might just call the raise but folding is ok too cuz his range is like TT+, AJss+, KQss and thats not good for us. anyone think that range is too tight? If so what other hands can I put in there?
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Old 09-09-2007, 07:23 PM
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Default Re: flopped draw in 3bet pot

I actually don't mind checking flop alot here.

This thread is a bit diff. but still somewhat applicable.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...c=#Post10321081
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Old 09-09-2007, 07:26 PM
Fletcher19 Fletcher19 is offline
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Default Re: flopped draw in 3bet pot

all looks pretty gross to me.

like orange said checking is fine and probably my preferred option but betting is ok too but just please fold to the c/r

fold pf too
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Old 09-09-2007, 07:27 PM
Nielsio Nielsio is offline
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Default Re: flopped draw in 3bet pot

Shove flop &gt; this.
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Old 09-09-2007, 11:52 PM
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Default Re: flopped draw in 3bet pot

If you call pf, then c/shove flop 100%

Edit: oh we're in pos. Yeah I check flop here.
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Old 09-10-2007, 12:12 AM
NicholasJ NicholasJ is offline
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Default Re: flopped draw in 3bet pot

Villain seems loose/passive. A c/r from passive player is usually a really strong hand. My guess is over pair or set. What does he c/r then fold?

Check behind with your weak draw.
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