11 JJ early / upfront standard?

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Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t15/t30
9 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: t1470
Hero: t1410
MP1: t1380
MP2: t1485
MP3: t1500
CO: t3060
Button: t1575
SB: t1470
BB: t150

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, Hero calls t30 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t45)</font>, MP1 calls t30 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t75)</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to t150</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB calls all-in t120</font>, Hero calls t120 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t345)</font>, MP1 folds.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t495, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: t495)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets t240</font>, Hero folds.

[hasanthadon]

i might probe bet the flop about 200-250 and fold to reraise. i think youre giving the villain to much of a chance to push you out on weakness, but the passive c/f line is not bad either. nf.

[vers]

I open 3x pre w/ TT+/AKo/s. Reads on button would be helpful b/c a squeeze might be in order if he is loose.

As played I c/f.

[BradleyT]

I'd guess at showdown he had AK/AJ/AT/KT/99 - all of which you beat. It seems to me most players on FTP use the bet pot button when they have strong hands. Not that I would have played the hand differently than you did though.

[LuckyJohn]

Maybe im too tight, but i am folding JJ in early position on 15/30 and 7 people after me... Sometimes i raise 3x, but never call.

[BradleyT]

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Maybe im too tight, but i am folding JJ in early position on 15/30 and 7 people after me... Sometimes i raise 3x, but never call.

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At 15/30 when you limp you'll often still have implied odds to play it for set value if someone behind you does raise. When you raise it to T90 up front and someone re-raises you most likely have to give up the hand.

[JSH06]

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Maybe im too tight, but i am folding JJ in early position on 15/30 and 7 people after me... Sometimes i raise 3x, but never call.

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I'd say so. Only 3 hands beat you. I would never open fold JJ.

[LuckyJohn]

Maybe it is because i play low-level buy-in and you not. For you decision that will give you ROI more than 10% is good, but on 3$ it is break-even, because opponents are so bad... I will think about it...

[JSH06]

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Maybe it is because i play low-level buy-in and you not. For you decision that will give you ROI more than 10% is good, but on 3$ it is break-even, because opponents are so bad... I will think about it...

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Well, I play 6 max but I still wouldn't ever open fold in a 9 man. I would think it would be better to raise JJ in a lower level. The fact that they're going to call you with trash is a good thing.

[donkeykong2]

you should definitely play jj at low stakes and probably raise first in.