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Old 09-09-2007, 01:37 PM
Mossberg Mossberg is offline
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Default 400NL - limped pot, marginal spot.

villain is unknown. I've only been at the table for a couple rounds so my stats haven't come up yet, but I know they are all fish. I talked about this hand over msn with a couple 2p2ers and got very different answers regarding flop and turn play.

Note villain's 280 stack.

Blinds: $2/$4
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $711.70
CO: $281.90
Button: $778.40
SB: $703.40
Hero: $374.00

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($20, 5 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $13</font>, UTG calls, CO calls, 2 folds.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($59, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $44</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $88</font>, Hero ________?
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Old 09-09-2007, 01:49 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - limped pot, marginal spot.

What do u think about this range?

Board: Ad Jc 4c 3s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 55.284% 47.73% 07.56% 840 133.00 { Ah3c }
Hand 1: 44.716% 37.16% 07.56% 654 133.00 { AJs-A8s, A4s-A3s, AJo-A8o, A4o-A3o }

Throw in some flushdraws and such and u get this:


Board: Ad Jc 4c 3s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 60.090% 54.82% 05.27% 1399 134.50 { Ah3c }
Hand 1: 39.910% 34.64% 05.27% 884 134.50 { 44, AQs-A8s, Ad7d, Ah7h, As7s, A4s-A3s, QdJd, QhJh, QsJs, QdTd, QhTh, QsTs, AQo-A8o, A4o-A3o }

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Old 09-09-2007, 01:57 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - limped pot, marginal spot.

with this many players to the flop i usually just check and see what happens. definitely have no problem with c/f'ing the flop.

as played the turn is a push. i base my opinion on the fact that you said you know the villain is a fish, and hes not full stacked. include in his range flush draws, worse 2pair combos, Axcc, and even sometimes a bare ace that just wants to get the money in now.
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Old 09-09-2007, 03:18 PM
I_WIN_VS_ODDS I_WIN_VS_ODDS is offline
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Default Re: 400NL - limped pot, marginal spot.

[ QUOTE ]
What do u think about this range?

Board: Ad Jc 4c 3s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 55.284% 47.73% 07.56% 840 133.00 { Ah3c }
Hand 1: 44.716% 37.16% 07.56% 654 133.00 { AJs-A8s, A4s-A3s, AJo-A8o, A4o-A3o }

Throw in some flushdraws and such and u get this:


Board: Ad Jc 4c 3s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 60.090% 54.82% 05.27% 1399 134.50 { Ah3c }
Hand 1: 39.910% 34.64% 05.27% 884 134.50 { 44, AQs-A8s, Ad7d, Ah7h, As7s, A4s-A3s, QdJd, QhJh, QsJs, QdTd, QhTh, QsTs, AQo-A8o, A4o-A3o }



[/ QUOTE ]

ok simon
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Old 09-09-2007, 05:21 PM
raze raze is offline
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Default Re: 400NL - limped pot, marginal spot.

I don't bet the flop. Aces no kicker, OOP, 4 loose bad opponents. You know you're going to get called by at least one player on the flop, and you won't know what to do on the turn, even in this best-case scenario.
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