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Old 09-08-2007, 06:47 PM
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Default 4/180 TT with 4 players left

Villain once called me with K-high on the river. Other than that he just seems to catch cards and getting action on his premiums. The min-re-raise PF scared me. Am I just playing for set value or is the flop a shove?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t2000 (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB (t48592)
Hero (t40405)
Button (t94608)
SB (t86395)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t5001</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t8002</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t3001.

Flop: (t16404) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t8000</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ???</font>
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Old 09-08-2007, 06:49 PM
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Default Re: 4/180 TT with 4 players left

I think its ok to both call for a set, and also lead all flops without A or K.

I lead this flop, then I can fold to a shove.
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Old 09-09-2007, 06:07 AM
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Default Re: 4/180 TT with 4 players left

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I lead this flop, then I can fold to a shove.

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I don't know about that. A 8k-10k bet on the flop almost puts half our stack in the pot and we are getting gazillion odds to call a shove.
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Old 09-09-2007, 06:28 AM
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Default Re: 4/180 TT with 4 players left

Is this the final 4? What's your image on the table? What's villain's image? Has he 3bet lately?

I think I CRAI unless villain is really solid. AQ+ is a big part of his range, and you are getting called by AQhh+.
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Old 09-09-2007, 07:20 AM
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Default Re: 4/180 TT with 4 players left

Bah - he really cries out i have a big PP.
I'd call pf as you easy get the implied odds you need to mine for a set.
As long as I have not seen it doing that mini-reraise preflop with a wider range of hands i can lay this one down on the flop.
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Old 09-09-2007, 08:26 AM
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Default Re: 4/180 TT with 4 players left

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Is this the final 4? What's your image on the table? What's villain's image? Has he 3bet lately?

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Yeah. Final 4. I have shown down 1 or 2 hands the whole final table because I was carddead. I stayed alive with some steals and re-steals ... not that I think a standard 4/180 player has any sense of putting his villains on an image.

I haven't played the 4/180s a lot but for me it seems like a min-raise or min-re-raise is almost always AA/KK (I even cracked an UTG KK min-raise with QTo with about 30 players left).

I really think folding on the flop is best... any 4/180 regulars here?
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Old 09-09-2007, 08:47 AM
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If its the final 4 I think I need a read that he's solid to lay this down. As said before, he's doing it too many times with AQ+ IMO.

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