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Old 09-08-2007, 03:16 PM
MichaelB MichaelB is offline
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Default I dont know how to play JJ

comments on PF and flop, suggestions on turn play plz!!

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $93.50
BB: $100.00
UTG: $27.15
Hero (MP): $115.90
CO: $187.30
BTN: $190.05

Reads: <font color="blue">villain is 23/17/2 over 200 hands</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $12.00</font>, BTN calls $12.00, 2 folds, Hero calls $8.50

Flop: ($37.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $25.00</font>, CO calls $25.00, BTN folds

Turn: ($87.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero ???</font>
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Old 09-08-2007, 03:21 PM
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Default Re: I dont know how to play JJ

Ok I am a nit but I really dont like this. You call with JJ oop. I think thats really bad. I would 4bet or fold preflop.

Four me fold &gt; 4bet since we do not want to play such hands in big pots vs a good player.
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Old 09-08-2007, 03:22 PM
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Default Re: I dont know how to play JJ

preflop is good, flop is not. Why are you donking the flop? Just ch/c it and see what develops.
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Old 09-08-2007, 03:26 PM
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Default Re: I dont know how to play JJ

check fold? whatever is calling flop is calling turn and whatever that calls flop beats you.

I check the flop and play the hand like a smaller pair, you are OOP.

villan tendencies helps tremendous ofc,
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Old 09-08-2007, 03:28 PM
oli1980 oli1980 is offline
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Default Re: I dont know how to play JJ

Casper,

I dont like c / c here. But for that i might want to see a Turn AF. if you c / c here your hand is transparent. He might put you an 99 88 or something like that and Hero has to check the turn again. But because of the flop action ( c/c on drawheavy board) an aggressive opponent might just bet again. Then we fold or call again, getting no information about villans hand...

but honestly, I don't know a good way to play this postflop.
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Old 09-08-2007, 03:28 PM
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Default Re: I dont know how to play JJ

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Ok I am a nit but I really dont like this. You call with JJ oop. I think thats really bad. I would 4bet or fold preflop.

[/ QUOTE ]If youre a nit, 4-betting JJ is burning money
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Old 09-08-2007, 03:36 PM
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Default Re: I dont know how to play JJ

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Ok I am a nit but I really dont like this. You call with JJ oop. I think thats really bad. I would 4bet or fold preflop.

[/ QUOTE ]If youre a nit, 4-betting JJ is burning money

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but honestly, I don't know a good way to play this postflop.

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call and hit a set.


If you checkcall this flop it could slow villan down and maby lead to a showdown for the same $ a bet OOP would
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Old 09-08-2007, 03:38 PM
TonyZ TonyZ is offline
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Default Re: I dont know how to play JJ

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Ok I am a nit but I really dont like this. You call with JJ oop. I think thats really bad. I would 4bet or fold preflop.

Four me fold &gt; 4bet since we do not want to play such hands in big pots vs a good player.

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I am new to forums but I agree with this.
You are OOP, also you came out betting on the flop, I totally hate that move to be honest.
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Old 09-08-2007, 03:40 PM
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Default Re: I dont know how to play JJ

btw u are playing ur hand like a bigdraw/made hand and how would ur turn look then? allin probably. however you dont have a bighand so there is no point in playing JJ like this
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Old 09-08-2007, 03:40 PM
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Default Re: I dont know how to play JJ

folding JJ pf here seems ultra weak.
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