NL100 - AK, 4bet pre

The Good · #1 09-08-2007, 09:37 AM

Is this a good play or do it suck? I got no reads nor any stats on villin. But I do know that he is a former NL200 reg. and for some reason he's playing NL100 now.

B2B No Limit Hold'em Cashgame
Blinds: €50,00 / €1,00
Players: 6
B2B Hand Converter from One Of A Kind

CO (€125,55)
Button (€46,27)
SB (€100,50)
BB (€108,18)
UTG (€156,23)
MP - Hero (€114,76)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
1 fold, Hero raises to €3,50, 3 folds, BB raises to €10,00, Hero raises to €25,00, BB calls €17,50

Flop: (€50,5) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero goes all-in for €86,26, BB goes all-in for €79,68

Turn: (€216) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players - 2 All-In)

River: (€216) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players - 2 All-In)

Final pot: €216

Al_Money · #2 09-08-2007, 01:25 PM

reraise more pre, shoving flop is an option but so is c/f of course.

The Good · #3 09-08-2007, 04:22 PM

Why should I rerasise more? It's not like he's getting implied to setmine me or something. Or do you think it would push him off more hands that I don't beat?

Does he really call the 4bet with hands that he will fold on the flop, except AK maybe, obv unlikely. (Ofcourse I would have called a 5bet push pre).

Anyone thinkes a 4bet push is better?, Atleast it doesn't get you in spots like this.

The Good · #4 09-08-2007, 04:24 PM

Since I'm ip, is a call a option worth contemplating?

Man, I suck at playing flops after 3-betting/4-betting action pre. Are there any article on it, or a CR video were it's discussed or something?

Al_Money · #5 09-08-2007, 04:26 PM

Reraising to $25 does nothing but bloat the pot, he's never folding anything that he 3 bet you with when you give him those kinds of odds.

wrkingtobegreat · #6 09-08-2007, 04:57 PM

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Reraising to $25 does nothing but bloat the pot, he's never folding anything that he 3 bet you with when you give him those kinds of odds.

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Hosehound25 · #7 09-08-2007, 04:59 PM

yeah, either call or make it about $35

The Good · #8 09-08-2007, 05:07 PM

But if he's never folding anything he's 3betting I'm quite happy anyway,, or? Because I probably crush his 3-betting range and it's not like he get the right price to call (oop) with a sc or a low/middle mp. And I couldn't be happier if he called with hands like AJ. If this is the case, that he calls with his whole 3betting range I kinda like my flop play.

However I think you guys are wrong, I think he will fold out alot of hands. But we can put the 4bet-size discussion on hold, I just don't think it woud lead anywhere,

Anyway, say I made it €35 instead and he called, would you guys push on the flop? For me it just doesn't make sence, he probably would not call that €35 4-bet with a range wide enough to justify a push. It's not like I have FE on JJ and such.