I'm at a loss to put them on anything

[Fnord]

8/16

Table texture is meh. Kinda tight with a couple loose spots. Post-flop people are folding a lot and generally trying to play well.

Passive player on less than a rack raises UTG. It might be something funny, but I'm inclined to think it's a big pocket pair because big Aces are usually limped in this game.

Loose/badish crazy asian lady calls.

I just call with 99 from MP because it's too much hand to fold here but I don't think I'm good here often enough to 3-ball it.

Blinds call.

5 to the flop, it's 6 high with 2 spades. BB (semi-loose, thinking) bets, EP calls! (ok, maybe big cards) folded to me and I raise for a bunch of reasons. Folded to EP who 3-balls it, EP caps (WTF?!?!). At this point I'm torn between LoLTrappedU and LoLDraw, but not sold enough that I'm beat so I call to sort this mess out on the turn.

Turn is a non-spade Eight. BB bets, EP calls, I'm in WTF mode but can't really find a fold given the action. I think about raising but can't find a raise either so I just call.

River is a non-spade King. BB checks, EP checks and I think about betting but just check behind...

[StrictlyStrategy]

God bet the river.

also, honestly if you're going to post weirdo flop lines then "six high with two spades" isn't really going to cut it at all.

There's a big difference between 654 and 642.

Eitehr way I usually make a face like"Yeah maybe you're not about to call me with a retard hand" and smash a bet in.

[Fnord]

It was something like 642.

[HoneyBadger]

Given a check, it's much more likely they are weak. So value bet it.

Suppose you have 30% strong hands, and with 50% of them you go for a river c/r. That means out of a 100 hands you will c/r 15, bet 15, and check/call/fold 70. So given a check, out of those 85 hands only 15 are check-raises. So the probability of being check-raised given a check from this player is only 17%, even though he check-raises 50% of his good hands, which is quite a lot.

The conclusion is to never fear a check-raise when you have a decent made hand that can beat a lot of hands that call. Value bet. Live, you can also probably fold to a river check-raise. I don't see them check a hand that beats you. Two-pair shouldn't be scared of that king.

[James.]

HB,

they may check TT-QQ in a heartbeat on that river.

remember, they suck and they play scared. the question is, can they fold TT-QQ if we bet? if so, bet. if not, check behind.

[James.]

fwiw, i would probably raise the turn planning on folding to a 3bet. i doubt i bet the river UI.

as played, you describe the table as trying to play well. as i stated in the other post, if there's a chance they fold TT-QQ to the bet fire. the only PP we beat is 55 and 77. the King makes it hard for Ahigh to call. i don't see much value in a river bet outside of the fold equity it generates.