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#1
09-07-2007, 04:52 AM
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1/2 Kings with hearts
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)
saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font> UTG+1 ($250.20) MP1 ($178.25) MP2 ($200) CO ($85.75) <font color="#C00000">Button ($176)</font> SB ($418.55) BB ($200) <font color="#C00000">Hero ($261.05)</font> Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Button calls $8, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $6. Flop: ($25) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20</font>, Button calls $20, BB folds. Turn: ($65) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $40</font>, Button calls $40. River: ($145) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero ? villain is 30/8/1.2 and has $108 left 
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#3
09-07-2007, 09:39 AM
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Re: 1/2 Kings with hearts
Why shove bottomset? If we shove, a flush calls and all other hands fold. What about checking here, hoping for a bet/semibluff by villain with something like lower set or TP and call then?
Just interested...
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#5
09-07-2007, 09:45 AM
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Re: 1/2 Kings with hearts
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If we shove, a flush calls and all other hands fold. [/ QUOTE ] Eh, no. Plenty of worse hands call, especially if they are donks. [ QUOTE ] What about checking here, hoping for a bet/semibluff by villain with something like lower set or TP and call then? Just interested... [/ QUOTE ] Awful. You miss a ton of value because top pair will very rarely bet. Check-calling ensures that you will lose the maximum when behind and win the minimum when ahead. At least by shoving you also win the maximum when ahead.
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#6
09-07-2007, 09:49 AM
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Re: 1/2 Kings with hearts
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Awful. You miss a ton of value because top pair will very rarely bet. Check-calling ensures that you will lose the maximum when behind and win the minimum when ahead. At least by shoving you also win the maximum when ahead. [/ QUOTE ] Thanks for explanation Sabr, that kind of thinking seems to make sense! I owe you a drink...
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#8
09-07-2007, 11:40 AM
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Re: 1/2 Kings with hearts
Why did you not just bet the pot on the flop? I don't see any reason to be 20 instead of 25. That makes the pot 10 bucks larger on the turn and allows you to get the money in faster.
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#10
09-07-2007, 12:35 PM
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Re: 1/2 Kings with hearts
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threads13, do you bet $25 with AK, AQ, 55, JJ etc aswell in that spot? $20 is fine. [/ QUOTE ] Sure... my bets are in typically in a fluid range that is based on flop texture, the opponent, the hand, etc... I don't see why you would want to bet $5 less. [i]Edit: To clarify, I am not saying that betting $20 is absolutely horrific or anything. I am just saying that if you are going to bet 20... why not bet 25?
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