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Old 09-06-2007, 06:07 AM
Jantjebeton Jantjebeton is offline
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Default $5/10 Pocket 66 in BB

Full ring table at Full tilt. Table is quite loose. MP2 is 14/4/1.1 and CO is 24/3.3/0.7. My first hand at this table.

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $5/$10
9 players
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Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
3 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4SB, 4 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 raises</font>, CO calls, SB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5BB, 3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, Hero calls, MP2 folds.

I think I'm behind here, I call here because I have 6 outs. So 7:1 pot odds are needed, but pot is offering 6:1. I think it is very likely that at least 1 other BB is coming to the pot.

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (7BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, Hero folds

Maybe a call is profitable? What do you think?
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Old 09-06-2007, 06:11 AM
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Default Re: $5/10 Pocket 66 in BB

looks fine to me. Turn is thin indeed, but he may also check behind a missed draw or something on the river.
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Old 09-06-2007, 06:54 AM
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Default Re: $5/10 Pocket 66 in BB

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he may also check behind a missed draw or something on the river.

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*nod*, I usually add a couple "outs" to account for the times this gets checked through and we scoop.
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Old 09-06-2007, 06:58 AM
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he may also check behind a missed draw or something on the river.

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*nod*, I usually add a couple "outs" to account for the times this gets checked through and we scoop.

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I'm not sure if that applies here with a new person betting the turn... I wouldn't be surprised at all if MP2 only has a draw though.
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Old 09-06-2007, 06:56 AM
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Default Re: $5/10 Pocket 66 in BB

You dont' really have 6 outs. Sometimes you will hit your six but that makes somebody a straight or they have a straight already. Sometimes you will hit your straight but somebody will have the same (or better) straight.

It's hard to exactly how often these things will occur but I doubt you have on average more than 5 outs. So if you think somebody has an ace or better on the turn I'm thinking this is probably a fold but it's close.
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Old 09-06-2007, 03:26 PM
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You dont' really have 6 outs. Sometimes you will hit your six but that makes somebody a straight or they have a straight already. Sometimes you will hit your straight but somebody will have the same (or better) straight.

It's hard to exactly how often these things will occur but I doubt you have on average more than 5 outs. So if you think somebody has an ace or better on the turn I'm thinking this is probably a fold but it's close.

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Its heads up at this point in a raised pot. WTF do u think villain is holding 78?
OP obviously puts villain on a big to medium A
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Old 09-06-2007, 03:44 PM
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You dont' really have 6 outs. Sometimes you will hit your six but that makes somebody a straight or they have a straight already. Sometimes you will hit your straight but somebody will have the same (or better) straight.

It's hard to exactly how often these things will occur but I doubt you have on average more than 5 outs. So if you think somebody has an ace or better on the turn I'm thinking this is probably a fold but it's close.

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Its heads up at this point in a raised pot. WTF do u think villain is holding 78?
OP obviously puts villain on a big to medium A

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To be honest I missed that the other guy folded.

But villian can still have have a 3 (especially bad if 63), 54 or a A6 type hand. The point was that if we are we are behind on average we won't have the full 6 outs and that needs to be considered when thinking about a marginal call.
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Old 09-06-2007, 09:49 AM
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i 3bet the flop.
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Old 09-06-2007, 09:58 AM
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i 3bet the flop.

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Please explain?
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Old 09-06-2007, 10:45 AM
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i 3bet the flop.

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Please explain?

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how large is your sample size? how many hands on the flop raiser?
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