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Old 09-03-2007, 08:34 PM
slimon slimon is offline
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Default $36turbo: Pushing A10s over one limper

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t50/t100
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t1195
UTG+1: t1725
CO: t2985
Hero: t1085
SB: t4285
BB: t2225

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO calls t100 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t150)</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in t1085</font>, SB folds, BB calls t985 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1335)</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to t2170</font>, BB calls t985 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t4290)</font>.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t5475, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: t3305, Sidepot 1: t2170)
<font color="#cc0000">BB is all-in t155</font>, CO calls t155 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t5630)</font>.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t5785, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: t3305, Sidepot 1: t2480)


River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t5785, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: t3305, Sidepot 1: t2480)


Results:
Final pot: t5785

Didn't turn out so well but is it worth it? I can increase my stack by about 25% if I push. No reads on the co limper or bb. Does doing these moves help you bust out earlier or help your survive even longer?
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Old 09-03-2007, 08:50 PM
ger664 ger664 is offline
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Default Re: $36turbo: Pushing A10s over one limper

This is the bottom of my range here but i would nearly always push this. Make a note on CO limp/call range.
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Old 09-03-2007, 08:53 PM
sippin_criss sippin_criss is offline
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Default Re: $36turbo: Pushing A10s over one limper

I'd do this almost always but this is close to the ass-end of my range.
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Old 09-03-2007, 08:53 PM
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Default Re: $36turbo: Pushing A10s over one limper

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This is the bottom of my range here but i would nearly always push this. Make a note on CO limp/call range.

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I would need sng wiz to calculate if I should push with limpers right.
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Old 09-03-2007, 08:55 PM
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Default Re: $36turbo: Pushing A10s over one limper

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I'd do this almost always but this is close to the ass-end of my range.

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Old 09-03-2007, 11:57 PM
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Default Re: $36turbo: Pushing A10s over one limper

What I'd be most concerned about is the fact that you don't have any reads or even any statistics on your opponent. That can make this kind of decision much easier to figure out.

First time, I probably let ATs slide and pay uber-close attention to what kind of hand is shown down to guide my fold/shove decisions if he limps again later.

Jeff
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Old 09-04-2007, 12:01 AM
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Default Re: $36turbo: Pushing A10s over one limper

Very standard.
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Old 09-04-2007, 12:35 AM
MikeMcQ1 MikeMcQ1 is offline
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Default Re: $36turbo: Pushing A10s over one limper

Is ATs really the "ass end" of your shoving range here? It seems like it should be wider. A8s seems more like the ass end. KJs as well. I'd be surprised if JTs wasn't profitable (depending on opponents)...SNGWiz anyone?
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Old 09-04-2007, 01:01 AM
FF_Woodycooks FF_Woodycooks is offline
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Default Re: $36turbo: Pushing A10s over one limper

Totally standard unless you have a note/read on limper that they limp strong (as this guy apparently did)
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Old 09-04-2007, 01:19 AM
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Default Re: $36turbo: Pushing A10s over one limper

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Very standard.

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Very standard push or very standard fold?
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