How Badly did I play this......

[20kPayday]

Final Table of The Ferguson last night....

Any advice on what i should have done differently is greatly appreciated? Should I have mucked it after the flop or went over the top.

Full Tilt Poker Game #3446936679: The Ferguson (25828126), Table 134 - 8000/16000 Ante 2000 - No Limit Hold'em - 6:30:10 ET - 2007/09/03
kirbaintnorooki (Observer): whew
Seat 1: 20kPayday (333,046)
Seat 2: PSPJP (106,080)
Seat 3: detroitfan212 (156,576)
Seat 4: MichaelHenry (566,978)
Seat 6: gotchya1980 (947,820)
20kPayday antes 2,000
PSPJP antes 2,000
detroitfan212 antes 2,000
MichaelHenry antes 2,000
gotchya1980 antes 2,000
gotchya1980 posts the small blind of 8,000
20kPayday posts the big blind of 16,000
detroitfan212: woooooow
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 20kPayday [Kh Qc]
PSPJP folds
detroitfan212 folds
20kPayday: freeroll
MichaelHenry raises to 32,000
gotchya1980 folds
20kPayday calls 16,000
*** FLOP *** [7c Js Ts]
20kPayday checks
MichaelHenry bets 48,000
20kPayday calls 48,000
*** TURN *** [7c Js Ts] [6c]
20kPayday checks
MichaelHenry checks
*** RIVER *** [7c Js Ts 6c] [Qd]
20kPayday checks
MichaelHenry bets 484,978, and is all in
20kPayday calls 251,046, and is all in
Uncalled bet of 233,932 returned to MichaelHenry
*** SHOW DOWN ***
MichaelHenry shows [Ad Ks] a straight, Ace high
20kPayday mucks
MichaelHenry wins the pot (680,092) with a straight, Ace high
20kPayday: my god
20kPayday stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 680,092 | Rake 0
Board: [7c Js Ts 6c Qd]
Seat 1: 20kPayday (big blind) mucked [Kh Qc] - a pair of Queens
Seat 2: PSPJP folded before the Flop
Seat 3: detroitfan212 folded before the Flop
Seat 4: MichaelHenry (button) showed [Ad Ks] and won (680,092) with a straight, Ace high
Seat 6: gotchya1980 (small blind) folded before the Flop

[levAA]

preflop: fine

flop: i'd really consider check/shoving the flop with your open-ended straight-draw.

as played here your decision on the river is hard, but i think you have to fold - AK,AQ or a straight is too likely.

[hamnegger]

1. i bet right out on this flop 2/3 to 3/4 pot bet and im shoving his reraise.

2. im not calling the river WITH ONE PAIR!!!!!!!!

[mynameisjoe]

firing the turn after check calling the flop might seem fishy to him so I like leading out here and shoving his raise or check raising him on the flop. the way you played it to the river i would fold to his all in

[BarryLyndon]

I check raise this flop all [censored] day without a single bit of thought unless I know that my opponent is super nitty. I mean, what more do you want here? You check, you're facing a standard cont. bet, you have FE in a nice pot, and you most likely have ~11 outs. I don't mind a call, however, OOP, a Q or a K isn't pleasant right now if you hit it on the turn.

The river, ugggh, it sucks, but everything got there. AJ checks behind, so does KJ. J10 probably checks behind as well, but who knows. A busted flush draw may do this, but those don't rep. a whole bunch of combinations (esp. with Js and 10s out there) + one of them just hit that beats you (AsQs). So, nothing realy missed. Fold.

Barry

[Acein8ter]

You always got to wonder about a river overbet... It's either a monster or a hugh bluff...

[BarryLyndon]

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You always got to wonder about a river overbet... It's either a monster or a hugh bluff...

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Thanks! (reason number 23948723429387523982342 why a MIDSTAKES MTT forum needs to be defined and created)

[erc007]

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Final Table of The Ferguson last night....

Any advice on what i should have done differently is greatly appreciated? Should I have mucked it after the flop or went over the top.

Full Tilt Poker Game #3446936679: The Ferguson (25828126), Table 134 - 8000/16000 Ante 2000 - No Limit Hold'em - 6:30:10 ET - 2007/09/03
kirbaintnorooki (Observer): whew
Seat 1: 20kPayday (333,046)
Seat 2: PSPJP (106,080)
Seat 3: detroitfan212 (156,576)
Seat 4: MichaelHenry (566,978)
Seat 6: gotchya1980 (947,820)
20kPayday antes 2,000
PSPJP antes 2,000
detroitfan212 antes 2,000
MichaelHenry antes 2,000
gotchya1980 antes 2,000
gotchya1980 posts the small blind of 8,000
20kPayday posts the big blind of 16,000
detroitfan212: woooooow
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 20kPayday [Kh Qc]
PSPJP folds
detroitfan212 folds
20kPayday: freeroll
MichaelHenry raises to 32,000
gotchya1980 folds
20kPayday calls 16,000
*** FLOP *** [7c Js Ts]
20kPayday checks
MichaelHenry bets 48,000
20kPayday calls 48,000
*** TURN *** [7c Js Ts] [6c]
20kPayday checks
MichaelHenry checks
*** RIVER *** [7c Js Ts 6c] [Qd]
20kPayday checks
MichaelHenry bets 484,978, and is all in
20kPayday calls 251,046, and is all in
Uncalled bet of 233,932 returned to MichaelHenry
*** SHOW DOWN ***
MichaelHenry shows [Ad Ks] a straight, Ace high
20kPayday mucks
MichaelHenry wins the pot (680,092) with a straight, Ace high
20kPayday: my god
20kPayday stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 680,092 | Rake 0
Board: [7c Js Ts 6c Qd]
Seat 1: 20kPayday (big blind) mucked [Kh Qc] - a pair of Queens
Seat 2: PSPJP folded before the Flop
Seat 3: detroitfan212 folded before the Flop
Seat 4: MichaelHenry (button) showed [Ad Ks] and won (680,092) with a straight, Ace high
Seat 6: gotchya1980 (small blind) folded before the Flop

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I think that if you call with this hand OOP, you're going to have to semi-bluff when u pick up a draw like this one. If u think button will always c-bet, your stack is good for a c/r AI on the flop. Button has played this hand very passively so far...min raise pre, 1/2 pot c-bet on flop. When you shove over his flop bet, u have a lot of FE since you're only laying him about 1.6 to 1 to call. If button is more passive, you can lead out for a PSB, then call if he shoves, getting 2 to 1 with overcards + your draw. Some players would consider 3-betting pre...i like calling, but playing a little more aggressively post flop.