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Flopped bottom two stealing, should I have folded?
Hadn't been sat down long, but villain seemed fairly weak-loose, limping a lot and folding to raises pre. Thought I would tried to do the same with trash from bb then flopped botton two....
Hand P4-49039628-418, Started at 01/09/2007 12:26 (EDT) Table 'Kampala': $4-$4 No Limit HE (Real) Seat 0: bobrasta1 ($671.50 in chips) Seat 1: DilNarSing ($424.80 in chips) Seat 2: guigui4 ($254.30 in chips) Seat 3: x Will33 ($97.50 in chips) Seat 4: Villain ($513.15 in chips) Seat 5: malte888 ($234.90 in chips) (on the button) Seat 6: phuzman26 ($422.70 in chips) Seat 7: Hero ($675 in chips) Seat 8: vinnerigen ($382.20 in chips) Seat 9: totalbluesky ($395.70 in chips) *** Blind Bet Round *** : phuzman26 : Post Blind ($2) Hero : Post Blind ($4) Dealt to Hero: 9s Dealt to hero: 2h *** Pre-Flop *** : vinnerigen : Fold totalbluesky : Fold bobrasta1 : Fold DilNarSing : Fold guigui4 : Fold x Will33 : Fold Viallain : Call ($4) malte888 : Fold phuzman26 : Call ($2) Hero : Bet ($22) ElGreco39 : Call ($22) phuzman26 : Fold *** Flop *** : 9h Ah 2c Hero : Bet ($29) Villain : Raise ($225) Hero : Raise ($620) Hero : All In ($649) Villain : Call ($262.15) Viallian : All In ($487.15) *** Turn *** : [ 9h Ah 2c ] 3h *** River *** : [ 9h Ah 2c 3h ] Ks At the time I felt my hand was too disguised too fold, any thoughts? |
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Re: Flopped bottom two stealing, should I have folded?
1. I hate pf if you're fairly new to the table (and most other times too in fact).
2. How exactly is your hands disguised after you raised pf?? 3. Bet properly on the flop. Now you are totally [censored]. And you did it to yourself. 4. Get some reads or at least stats so you know if he is more likely or less likely to do this with a draw. Another reason not to do it when you haven't been there long. Bottum 2 is the same as AK here only there are way less sets available as well as 2pr hands. Plus it's a reasonably drawy board. I am not afraid of sets here. If he has one, so bet it. 2-pr hands that beat us are A2s (only 2 combos), and A9s (also only 2 combos). I think with those few hands that beat us I would be ok to get it in. After he raises a massive overbet on the flop, I think getting it in is ok. The way you played it still sux pretty hard. Edit: He may have A9o too (not just A9s), so there are 6 combos of that, and 8 combo's of 2pr alltogether. If he is a TAG, we can rule this hand out of his play. But a tag will rarely overbet the flop so badly so I put A9o in his range too, which makes this call harder and I think A9 is a high likelihood to be in his range here. I'm less inclined to call now. |
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Re: Flopped bottom two stealing, should I have folded?
Fold preflop, the pot has next to nothing and your hand is virtually unplayable. There will be many better spots to pick off Villains limps.
As played this is pretty close. I can easily see players limp/calling with A9s/A2s/22 etc. His line isn't consistent with a big ace, and there aren't really any combo draws out there. Thus, he either has to be going crazy with a bare flush draw, or AT/AJo for us to be winning. I doubt that's the case, so a fold is probably in order. When you three bet the flop, rest assured that no worse hand is calling. |
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