$60 Turbo- Level 8- AK in BB versus big stack

MATT238 · #1 08-31-2007, 02:02 PM

Big stack has been playing extremely passively, not taking advantage of the bubble at all. Short-stack is left with 2 BB's after posting the small this hand. I know big stack has a hand, but I think I still have some fold equity. But, if I do get called, I'm either crushed by AA or KK, or racing against a pair. Shove here?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

UTG (t5585)
Button (t3225)
SB (t1160)
Hero (t3530)

Preflop: Hero is BB with

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UTG raises to t1200</font>, 2 folds</font>

Fat Afghan · #2 08-31-2007, 02:11 PM

I think you have enough FE to push in this spot. If he has aces or kings then so be it. + winning this hand uncontested will give you a great chance to pwn the bubble.

ger664 · #3 08-31-2007, 03:16 PM

You need villian to folding 60% of the time to be able to take the 45/55 against his calling range.

Has villian folded to previous re-raises ?
Have you shown down strong hands to get to where you are at ?

Without either of the above I think you will not get a fold often enough.

FF_Woodycooks · #4 08-31-2007, 06:34 PM

It's a pretty marginal shove, only time I consider pushing this is if the big stack has been raising all over the place. I had a hand just like this last night, except the big stack had minraised 6 hands in a row, I reshove, he calls with 55 and I get a sucky fourth :P.

freeucm · #5 08-31-2007, 06:46 PM

Wow only 7xbb left if u win this flip u probably take at least 1st or second, who wants to just make the money.

Pocketbear · #6 08-31-2007, 06:57 PM

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Wow only 7xbb left if u win this flip u probably take at least 1st or second, who wants to just make the money.

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Wow, this logic is soooo flawed...

Chipchucker5 · #7 08-31-2007, 07:05 PM

You need to shove this

Pocketbear · #8 08-31-2007, 07:21 PM

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The fact that bigstack has been very passive during the bubble increases the chance that he has a big hand dramatically. Also, he'd be getting more than 2 to 1 on his call, so those two facts combined -> no FE.

chuckpalms04 · #9 08-31-2007, 07:22 PM

a shove is probably good, i think we can stop and go, also, seeing as the pot is gonna be the size of our stack if we decide to sng.

Chipchucker5 · #10 08-31-2007, 07:35 PM

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The fact that bigstack has been very passive during the bubble increases the chance that he has a big hand dramatically. Also, he'd be getting more than 2 to 1 on his call, so those two facts combined -> no FE.

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I would imagine that CLer is raising any pair, any ace, and probably something like KT+. I would also think that he'd interpret our shove as a major sign of strength and would fold a lot of the smaller pairs. Winning this pot (either uncontested or in a showdown) puts us in a great position to abuse the bubble a gain a ton of future EV.