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Old 08-30-2007, 02:24 PM
aceskay aceskay is offline
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Default 100nl, flop trips facing big 3-bet

I just sat down, and don't have any stats on UTG at this point. Is this an insta-call? I mean his range is AQ, KQ, QJ, QT, 55, plus all kinds of diamond draws, and maybe AA or KK?

I guess my thoughts are, after I raise, I'm not really looking to fold, just wondering what the consensus is here.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

SB ($14.05)
BB ($108)
<font color="#C00000">UTG ($337.40)</font>
MP ($104.95)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($98.50)</font>
Button ($18.35)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $4, Button calls $4, SB calls $3.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($17) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $21</font>, Button folds, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $333.4</font>, Hero ???
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Old 08-30-2007, 02:40 PM
jc1418 jc1418 is offline
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Default Re: 100nl, flop trips facing big 3-bet

readless I don't see how you fold, he obviously leads into you waiting for you to come over the top but he can do this with AQ as well as AA or KK, gotta go with it. I would seriously reconsider calling QTs to an utg raise prf.
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Old 08-30-2007, 02:41 PM
LSP16 LSP16 is offline
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Default Re: 100nl, flop trips facing big 3-bet

He has either...Aces... A-Q or 5-5
since you are only at a normal buy-in with 1/4 of your stack already in the middle... I am calling here
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Old 08-30-2007, 02:42 PM
aceskay aceskay is offline
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Default Re: 100nl, flop trips facing big 3-bet

you really don't like seeing flops with suited broadway 100bb deep when you have position?
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Old 08-30-2007, 02:46 PM
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Default Re: 100nl, flop trips facing big 3-bet

Here are two ranges below, although I'm not completely sold on them being accurate representations of his true range.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

25,740 games 0.031 secs 830,322 games/sec

Board: Qd Qh 5d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 58.714% 56.10% 02.61% 14441 672.00 { QcTc }
Hand 1: 41.286% 38.68% 02.61% 9955 672.00 { KK+, 55, AdKd, AQs, AdJd, AdTd, KQs, AQo, KQo }

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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

23,760 games 0.005 secs 4,752,000 games/sec

Board: Qd Qh 5d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 57.582% 54.71% 02.87% 13000 681.50 { QcTc }
Hand 1: 42.418% 39.55% 02.87% 9397 681.50 { KK+, 55, AdKd, KQs, QJs, AQo, KQo }
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Old 08-30-2007, 02:47 PM
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Default Re: 100nl, flop trips facing big 3-bet

aces - I think you can include AKd or AJd in his range, as well as an overpair. I don't think I can fold here, and if he calls, we can just spike a 10 and not worry about it.
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Old 08-30-2007, 02:55 PM
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Default Re: 100nl, flop trips facing big 3-bet

Looks like hes just thought "[censored] it if my Ks arent good i just got unlucky, im shoving."

Call.
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Old 08-30-2007, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: 100nl, flop trips facing big 3-bet

nope the only suited hand I call with here has an A in it. I mean keep doing this and see what happens over several thousands of hands, I don't think you will be pleased.
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Old 08-30-2007, 03:01 PM
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Default Re: 100nl, flop trips facing big 3-bet

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aces - I think you can include AKd or AJd in his range, as well as an overpair. I don't think I can fold here, and if he calls, we can just spike a 10 and not worry about it.

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haha spike a 10 and not worry about it?
i like it [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 08-30-2007, 03:23 PM
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Default Re: 100nl, flop trips facing big 3-bet

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you really don't like seeing flops with suited broadway 100bb deep when you have position?

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I call in position w/ these hands, but I'm not calling w/ this hand looking to play a big pot when I flop trip queens.

I would play big pots w/ 2 pair, trip 10's, straights and flushes, but not trip queens. The 10 kicker can kill you here.
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