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Old 08-30-2007, 10:50 AM
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Default NL10, Overpair on paired, flush draw board

Villain 20/13/2.5 over 50 or so hands

I need help on all streets here because I was lost the whole way. I'll give me thoughts on flop/turn below. (preflop standard, right?)

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $8.45
BB: $10.15
UTG: $15.65
UTG+1: $6.35
MP1: $14.40
MP2: $9.60
MP3: $11.00
CO: $5.95
BTN: $9.40

Preflop: Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (9 Players)
5 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $0.30</font>, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.25, BB folds

Flop: ($0.70) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $0.50</font>, Hero calls $0.50

<font color="blue">Thought: No way he hit this, he's cbetting and I'm calling. </font>

Turn: ($1.70) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $1.40</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6.00</font>, CO calls all-in for $3.75
Uncalled bet of $0.85 returned to Hero

<font color="blue">Thought: What hand raises preflop, bets flop, and leads turn when flush card comes, AXs? There are many cbet hands that do this that I am ahead of as well, right? Anyhow, reraise is because with my overpair and his $3 behind I'm calling pretty much all river bets anyway. Goot?</font>

River: ($12) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $12.00 ($1.20 Rake)
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Old 08-30-2007, 11:01 AM
thehempy thehempy is offline
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Default Re: NL10, Overpair on paired, flush draw board

I check raise flop, folding to a 3bet push with these stack sizes. His stats arent crazy so as played I dont mind folding the turn. I think check raising all in on the turn is spew. I expect to see TT+ a lot here.
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Old 08-30-2007, 11:06 AM
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Default Re: NL10, Overpair on paired, flush draw board

Pretty sure you re up against a bigger pair, maybe containing a spade like KsKx. I like thehempy's line...
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Old 08-30-2007, 11:17 AM
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Default Re: NL10, Overpair on paired, flush draw board

If you think he's FOS 3-bet preflop or raise the flop. Yes there are many c-bets that do this, but his range really narrows when leads on that ugly turn. The turn C/R is spew cause he's not laying down anything that beats you getting over 2to1 to call. In fact I doubt he's betting this turn with anything that doesn't beat you. Certainly not almost potting it.
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Old 08-30-2007, 12:53 PM
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Flop: ($0.70) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $0.50</font>, Hero calls $0.50

<font color="blue">Thought: No way he hit this, he's cbetting and I'm calling. </font>


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If you are sure ("no way"), wouldn´t it be wiser to raise? If you have him beat now, he certainly shouldn´t see another card.
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Old 08-30-2007, 01:01 PM
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Default Re: NL10, Overpair on paired, flush draw board

Capt/WTL - So you both are basically saying that if I am so confident why not raise him. Is it a given that check/call flop to induce a check behind on turn is &lt; EV then raising flop to induce a fold on flop? I really do not know so am looking for help here.
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Old 08-30-2007, 01:03 PM
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Default Re: NL10, Overpair on paired, flush draw board

Edited above to flip the &lt;&gt;
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Old 08-30-2007, 01:23 PM
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Default Re: NL10, Overpair on paired, flush draw board

I much prefer a raise pre-flop then a flop check raise. If you 3bet pre-flop and he 4bets you can easily fold.

If you c/r the flop and he calls your left with a [censored] decision on the turn when your first too act. I hate playing good-medium hands OOP so i always try and take the pot down from the blinds pre-flop.
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Old 08-30-2007, 01:39 PM
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Teddie - If I 3bet preflop to say 1.30 I'm seeing river automatically given CO stack size, right?
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Old 08-30-2007, 02:37 PM
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Teddie - If I 3bet preflop to say 1.30 I'm seeing river automatically given CO stack size, right?

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I'd 3bet to $0.90 and fold too a shove. Given his stats, i doubt he shoving with a lower PP's so your either miles behind or a coinflip. If Villan was more donkish i'd be happy to get it all in, but not against this fella.
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