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Old 08-29-2007, 06:29 PM
Kimpan Kimpan is offline
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Default Getting max value with KQ

Is it better to just bet turn here? I can see him peeling one on the flop and letting it go on the turn.
good to induce a bluff here and get value from weaker hands on the river? Although there is the risk of him having the flushdraw here..

PartyPoker $100 NL Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(6 handed)</font> HandRecorder v0.9b

Stacks &amp; Stats
UTG ($70.88)
MP ($63.32)
CO ($84.62) (44/17/2.05/33) (200h)
BU ($110.73)
SB ($68.02)
Hero ($101.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#FF0000">CO (poster) raises to $1</font>, BU calls $2, SB calls $1.50, Hero calls $1.

Flop: ($7) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets $6</font>, CO calls $6, BU folds, SB folds.

Turn: ($19) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#FF0000">CO bets $12</font>, Hero calls $12.

River: ($43) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">Hero bets $28.50</font>, CO folds.

Final Pot: $71.50.
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Old 08-29-2007, 06:31 PM
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Default Re: Getting max value with KQ

dude bet the turn.
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Old 08-29-2007, 06:35 PM
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Default Re: Getting max value with KQ

It's not sexy at all? [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 08-29-2007, 06:36 PM
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Default Re: Getting max value with KQ

I posted earlier where i hit a set of Jacks on the turn and didnt bet and ended up giving a free card that lost a big pot. Everyone made it pretty clear i shouldve bet the turn. If he did have a flush draw youd be feeling a lot different about this post if it was the 7 of diamonds on the river.
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Old 08-29-2007, 06:43 PM
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Default Re: Getting max value with KQ

Hmm I think you shouldn't post the whole hand here I think lots of people seem to get result oriented (not in this thread just in general)

ANYWAY, I would definately bet this turn, and if I did decide to check it would be to C/R, but I think betting is better. He's loose with a pretty high WTSD, his range could be very wide and you'd be doing it for value more than protection. Did the converter [censored] up btw? I assume he posted the blind then minraised to $2?
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Old 08-29-2007, 07:07 PM
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Default Re: Getting max value with KQ

My default is to bet the turn with the FD out there, if you do check I'd be c/r'ing. Just calling lets him draw to straight/flush or makes it so he gets scared with QJ/QT when flush hits on river.
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Old 08-29-2007, 07:12 PM
keikiwai keikiwai is offline
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Default Re: Getting max value with KQ

I would seriously considering raising pf if other players are weak.... CO just posted then min pfred, I think KQ is doing awesome against everyone's range and a pf raise takes it down often, and will often get you HU which is good for KQ

def bet turn w/ the FD and str8 draws out there, esp. since CO's range is very wide due to his pf play, so he could well have things like 65os, or 52os or whatever
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Old 08-29-2007, 07:21 PM
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Default Re: Getting max value with KQ

I actually didn't pay attention to the straightdraw.. yeah its too wet to do this stuff..
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Old 08-29-2007, 07:30 PM
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Default Re: Getting max value with KQ

bet turn c/c river is probably the best line here. turn's for value and the river missed the draws so he should make a bet with the case Q and also try to bluff a decent amt of the time with his missed draws. I also hate facing shoves when I bet this river.
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Old 08-29-2007, 07:36 PM
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Default Re: Getting max value with KQ

if you are going to c/c the turn, you should probably try and c/r the river. the only reason to bet the river with your line is if you think he has a queen, in which case you should have bet the turn and river to try and stack him.

with the FD there, i would bet this turn almost every time, especially against a donkish player.
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