2pair - ugly turn

Scaramouche · #1 08-29-2007, 06:29 PM

Villain is unknown.

Seat 1: SB ($217,85)
Seat 3: Hero ($590,30)
Seat 5: UTG ($136,85)
Seat 6: UTG+1 ($110,95)
Seat 8: CO ($290,45)
Seat 10: BTN ($197,70)

SB posts small blind of $1,00; Hero posts big blind of $2,00;
Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

UTG folds; UTG+1 folds; CO calls $2,00; BTN raises to $8,00; SB folds; Hero calls $6,00; CO folds;

Dealing flop J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Pot is: $19,00

Hero checks; BTN bets $12,00; Hero raises to $38,00; BTN calls $26,00;

Dealing turn A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Pot is: $95,00

Hero ??

shpanko · #2 08-29-2007, 07:09 PM

Bet/fold $63? ONly problem with this is he might shove AhXh, I think he has Tx or hearts a lot here so I keep betting.

Bulletproof Monk · #3 08-29-2007, 08:03 PM

c/f seems better imo

shpanko · #4 08-29-2007, 08:06 PM

you think he's not betting the turn with AhXh?

Bulletproof Monk · #5 08-29-2007, 08:07 PM

exactly which AhXh does he raise preflop with that we are ahead of here?

shpanko · #6 08-29-2007, 08:08 PM

all of them but AQ/AJ/A9 [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

shpanko · #7 08-29-2007, 08:09 PM

I mean I'm raising every Axs on the button even after a limper, so it's not crazy to assume an uknown is doing it as well. I just think c/f is too weak. I feel like bet/folding gets more value vs draws and doesn't get us bluffed out of the pot too much.

Bulletproof Monk · #8 08-29-2007, 08:10 PM

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=3015759
pokenum -h ah th - qs js -- qh jd 9h as
Holdem Hi: 44 enumerated boards containing As Jd Qh 9h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ah Th 22 50.00 22 50.00 0 0.00 0.500
Qs Js 22 50.00 22 50.00 0 0.00 0.500

interesting lol

Bulletproof Monk · #9 08-29-2007, 08:11 PM

(that wasnt pointed at you btw, i just found that result really interesting heh)

i think spending $63 on a pot where we are likely close to drawing dead given his whole range is spew.... fwiw b/f was my first thought when i read the thread, but seriously try to find a range for him that justifies it.

shpanko · #10 08-29-2007, 08:13 PM

he has Tx,KQ,hearts here a ton. We're definitely not crushed by his range. Furthermore I assume that unknowns are going to play draws passively so I doubt we get bluff-raised off of the best hand here. I think our hand is definitely worth protecting and that's why I feel b/f is best.