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Old 08-29-2007, 04:30 PM
Ace0fSpades Ace0fSpades is offline
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Default 50nl w/ QQ

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $49.50
BB: $47.50
Hero (UTG): $82.80
MP: $47.80
CO: $50.75
BTN: $75.20

Reads: <font color="blue">No read, though villain seems pretty standard and a little aggro</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $2.00</font>, 2 folds, BTN calls $2.00, SB calls $1.75, BB folds

Flop: ($6.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4.50</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $9.00</font>, Hero calls $4.50

Turn: ($24.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $17.00</font>, Hero?
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Old 08-29-2007, 05:04 PM
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Default Re: 50nl w/ QQ

Gah. I had a long response, but deleted it. I really don't know. I guess since we have the Q diamonds, we can maybe make this call. A read would be really helpful here. But I really hate calling the minraise on flop. I don't like either of the other options, but I think I view calling as the worst. Usually I'll just come over the top, because I'm in love with my overpair and have the backdoor flush draw.

Turn card completes a ton of draws. I'm torn between folding and shoving.
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Old 08-29-2007, 06:14 PM
Ramana Ramana is offline
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Default Re: 50nl w/ QQ

This is pretty much a flip if you think that he can do this with JJ TT.

Board: 9d 5h 8d 6d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.120% 46.92% 02.20% 640 30.00 { QdQs }
Hand 1: 50.880% 48.68% 02.20% 664 30.00 { JJ-88, 55, AdTd, KdJd, JdTd, Td7d, 98s, 76s }


if not, you're in trouble

Board: 9d 5h 8d 6d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 22.727% 20.22% 02.51% 169 21.00 { QdQs }
Hand 1: 77.273% 74.76% 02.51% 625 21.00 { 99-88, 55, AdTd, KdJd, JdTd, Td7d, 98s, 76s }

I think that's basically what it comes down to. Without a good read, I tend towards folding to be honest, because the flop was multiway and SB has something he's willing to felt.
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Old 08-30-2007, 12:42 AM
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Default Re: 50nl w/ QQ

I'm thinkin fold.
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Old 08-30-2007, 02:18 AM
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Default Re: 50nl w/ QQ

Why did you just call his min-raise?
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Old 08-30-2007, 02:38 AM
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Default Re: 50nl w/ QQ

consider shoving flop.
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Old 08-30-2007, 03:57 AM
Spanky1974 Spanky1974 is offline
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Default Re: 50nl w/ QQ

I don't think you are ahead often enough to call turn bet. If you are, you will get his money soon. What was your plan when you called the flop raise?
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Old 08-30-2007, 04:15 AM
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easy fold. Do not shove the flop, you will let him play perfectly, and most of the time youd rather be a huge dog or slightly ahead.
This is one situation, in which I think min3betting the flop is the best play, just as a sort of "probe raise". If he shoves we have an easy fold, if he calls, we reevaluate with a much better read the turn.
I got to say I absolutely hate minbets, but this time it seems to be the best line.
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Old 08-30-2007, 04:16 AM
PleasureGuy69 PleasureGuy69 is offline
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Default Re: 50nl w/ QQ

[ QUOTE ]
easy fold. Do not shove the flop, you will let him play perfectly, and most of the time youd rather be a huge dog or slightly ahead.
This is one situation, in which I think min3betting the flop is the best play, just as a sort of "probe raise". If he shoves we have an easy fold, if he calls, we reevaluate with a much better read the turn.
I got to say I absolutely hate minbets, but this time it seems to be the best line.

[/ QUOTE ]

That's about as good as open folding
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Old 08-30-2007, 07:14 AM
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Default Re: 50nl w/ QQ

I tought about shoving the flop. So many draws out there.

As played I fold.
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