NL100 JJ in 3way pot OOP

[Panic__NL]

The IR is 78/22/1.1 over 33 hands
The CO is 22/11/1.5 over 74 hands.

My usual stats are about 19/16/3, nothing realy special happened before this hand.
What line do we take on the flop, bet/fold, check/call, bet/call?


Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $233.95
UTG+1: $104.85
CO: $102.25
Button: $18.75
Hero: $99
BB: $113.15

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $4</font>, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $19</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($58, 3 players)

<font color="#cc0000">Hero ??

[scallop]

bet 50, call a push. Anything else is so weak. If someone has QQ so be it.

[cfb1739]

I would probably bet and fold to a raise from UTG but call a raise from UTG+1. My reasoning is that UTG can easily have AA, KK or QQ here, and he isn't going to raise pairs worse than JJ. UTG+1, however, could really have anything but bigger pairs. His range includes all kinds of flush draws because after you raised and UTG called, he could pretty much call the 3 bet w/ any hand that called the original raise from UTG.

Basically, a raise from UTG = you are beat. A raise from UTG+1 could be sets or draws.

[scallop]

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I would probably bet and fold to a raise from UTG but call a raise from UTG+1. My reasoning is that UTG can easily have AA, KK or QQ here, and he isn't going to raise pairs worse than JJ. UTG+1, however, could really have anything but bigger pairs. His range includes all kinds of flush draws because after you raised and UTG called, he could pretty much call the 3 bet w/ any hand that called the original raise from UTG.

Basically, a raise from UTG = you are beat. A raise from UTG+1 could be sets or draws.

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errrr...... hero started the hand with 99bb's and bet 19 of them pf. He has 80 left, and the pot is 58. If he bets the flop he's not folding to a raise..... and he shuld bet this flop.

[RUDIKULOUS]

Lol a b/f to utg is definitely the worst option, hes a drooler. B/c plz especially with the fact that one of the players involved is probably terrible.

[Speedlimits]

just call pf.

[cfb1739]

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Lol a b/f to utg is definitely the worst option, hes a drooler. B/c plz especially with the fact that one of the players involved is probably terrible.

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Complete sentences in English please. K thx.

[cfb1739]

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errrr...... hero started the hand with 99bb's and bet 19 of them pf. He has 80 left, and the pot is 58. If he bets the flop he's not folding to a raise..... and he shuld bet this flop.

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I probably should have looked at stack sizes before replying. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Since hero is committed if he bets, then he should just shove. Otherwise, wtf is the point of re-raising pf. I don't really like shoving, but I don't think there is a better line.

[Panic__NL]

Bad players will shove over a bet with a draw, without seeing that they dont have FE. If they will call a shove with a draw is another something different.

[cfb1739]

Ok, how about CRAI then?