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Old 08-28-2007, 10:51 AM
Teddie Teddie is offline
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Default NL 5: AJo in ugly J high flop

Just wondering what i should of done on the flop, didnt really have a clue if i should of lead or not. If i bet anything close to the pot i am nearly pot committed so i thought maybe betting a $1 c/f for the rest of the hand or is c/c okay(obviously fold if a diamond hits)?




Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.02/$0.04 Blinds - 10 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $4.88
BB: $3.01
UTG: $8.16
UTG+1: $1.71
UTG+2: $5.10
MP1: $7.79
MP2: $1.65
MP3: $4.90
CO: $6.03
BTN: $3.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (10 Players)
2 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.04, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $0.04, MP3 calls $0.04, CO folds, BTN calls $0.04, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.32</font>, BB calls $0.28, UTG+2 folds, MP2 calls $0.28, MP3 calls $0.28, BTN calls $0.28

Flop: ($1.64) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $0.24</font>, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.24, Hero calls $0.24

Turn: ($2.36) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, BB checks, BTN checks

River: ($2.36) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets all-in for $2.45</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises all-in to $2.94</font>, Hero folds
Uncalled bet of $0.49 returned to BTN

Pot Size: $7.26 ($0.36 Rake)
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Old 08-28-2007, 11:05 AM
Mike Kelley Mike Kelley is offline
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Default Re: NL 5: AJo in ugly J high flop

Hard to over-value position in a hand.

Personally I just complete from the small blind and check fold that flop.
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Old 08-28-2007, 11:21 AM
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Default Re: NL 5: AJo in ugly J high flop

I don't hate raising all the limpers from the SB, but I check/fold the flop as well.
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Old 08-28-2007, 11:23 AM
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Default Re: NL 5: AJo in ugly J high flop

Bet the flop yourself, if called. turn K, u can lead again, check call or check fold depending how you feel about his hand.
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Old 08-28-2007, 11:48 AM
AlexB182 AlexB182 is offline
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Default Re: NL 5: AJo in ugly J high flop

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Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (10 Players)
2 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.04, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $0.04, MP3 calls $0.04, CO folds, BTN calls $0.04, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.32</font>, BB calls $0.28, UTG+2 folds, MP2 calls $0.28, MP3 calls $0.28, BTN calls $0.28

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This reads so sick!!!

When you want to bet that flop, bet bigger, betting .24 in a 1.64 pot is spew.
BTW: on the river, you have to call .49 in round about 6.80 pot. With that huge odds I would even consider calling, he just needs to bluff completely once in 13 times to make a call +EV here...
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Old 08-28-2007, 12:13 PM
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Default Re: NL 5: AJo in ugly J high flop

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Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (10 Players)
2 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.04, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $0.04, MP3 calls $0.04, CO folds, BTN calls $0.04, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.32</font>, BB calls $0.28, UTG+2 folds, MP2 calls $0.28, MP3 calls $0.28, BTN calls $0.28

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This reads so sick!!!

When you want to bet that flop, bet bigger, betting .24 in a 1.64 pot is spew.
BTW: on the river, you have to call .49 in round about 6.80 pot. With that huge odds I would even consider calling, he just needs to bluff completely once in 13 times to make a call +EV here...

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You might have to study the HH again. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 08-28-2007, 12:19 PM
AlexB182 AlexB182 is offline
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Default Re: NL 5: AJo in ugly J high flop

Oh, damnit! Please forget my last sentence immediately! Sorry, Teddie!
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Old 08-28-2007, 02:51 PM
Mister Havisham Mister Havisham is offline
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Default Re: NL 5: AJo in ugly J high flop

Bet flop at least .75X pot. If raised and heads up, go AI excep v MP3.

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Bet the flop yourself, if called. turn K, u can lead again, check call or check fold depending how you feel about his handv MP3.

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If you make big flop bet, How can you c/f that turn once MP3 folds with pot odds that juicy? IMO K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] turn is a clear push without MP3 if you bet flop .75x or more and I wouldn't bet less.
As played I crai flop. Button could call 24 cents with many hands. Maybe original bettor is the type that typically bets small with set or small flush on this board or doesn't feel need to protect big flush but he is quite unlikely to be ahead of you. Probably has jack or diamond.

BTW, this is at least a good flop for you, if not a very good one. If MP3 only had $3.50 it's very profitable situation.
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Old 08-28-2007, 04:18 PM
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Default Re: NL 5: AJo in ugly J high flop

I'd play it like you did. On the flop you get 10:1 odds, so even though TPTK is probably no good those odds are too good to fold. I don't like leading out on that flop. If everyone called your pf raise then I'd say that they are likely to hang around on the flop, and just building a huge pot OOP with TPTK is not the most profitable play that can be made in NL5.

What did they have?
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Old 08-28-2007, 04:22 PM
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Default Re: NL 5: AJo in ugly J high flop

cbet flop (3/4 pot) &amp; fold to raise. by checking &amp; calling but not raising you are not charging any potential flush draws.
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