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Old 08-28-2007, 01:03 AM
billybeartku billybeartku is offline
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Default 27s, AK as a CL, is it a bad call?

villan runs 19.85/11.4 over 134 hands. Is my AKs a bad(-EV) call? or his 55 was a -EV/bad shove?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Hero (t6485)
BB (t2040)
UTG (t3095)
Button (t1880)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t3070</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t2970, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t6115) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t6115) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t6115) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t6115
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Old 08-28-2007, 01:24 AM
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Default Re: 27s, AK as a CL, is it a bad call?

call is pretty atrocious.
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Old 08-28-2007, 01:30 AM
billybeartku billybeartku is offline
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Default Re: 27s, AK as a CL, is it a bad call?

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call is pretty atrocious.

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I know, but I'm asking for why it's a bad call. I've seen tons CL call AI in that spot all day
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Old 08-28-2007, 01:31 AM
Dr_Wonderful Dr_Wonderful is offline
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Default Re: 27s, AK as a CL, is it a bad call?

I make this call all day. He would never do this with AA or KK so you are at worst a 50/50 with plenty of hands you have dominated.
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Old 08-28-2007, 01:51 AM
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Default Re: 27s, AK as a CL, is it a bad call?

If you call and win, you're ITM with a nice chiplead. If you call and lose you lose the CL. If you fold you have a nice chiplead on the bubble with antes in play and the other 3 kinda even. I guess you're ahead of villain's range but winning this hand isn't that big a deal. If villain isn't likely to be shoving extremely wide only reason I'd call is to show the [censored] it's my bubble.
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Old 08-28-2007, 01:59 AM
Hamburglar Hamburglar is offline
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Default Re: 27s, AK as a CL, is it a bad call?

his 55 was a -EV/bad shove
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Old 08-28-2007, 02:01 AM
Hamburglar Hamburglar is offline
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Default Re: 27s, AK as a CL, is it a bad call?

AKs a -EV call but it's probably for pennies at this level so
really it's no biggie.
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Old 08-28-2007, 03:41 AM
RexWoo RexWoo is offline
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Default Re: 27s, AK as a CL, is it a bad call?

I let this go at BB200
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Old 08-28-2007, 04:46 AM
BoundForGlory BoundForGlory is offline
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Default Re: 27s, AK as a CL, is it a bad call?

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his 55 was a -EV/bad shove

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AKs a -EV call but it's probably for pennies at this level so
really it's no biggie.

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Could you please explain this? I call here with AKs 99.9 outta 100. Why would that be a bad move?
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Old 08-28-2007, 06:50 AM
braminc braminc is offline
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Default Re: 27s, AK as a CL, is it a bad call?

lots of bad info in here
you should instacall here.
55 is a HORRIBLE shove with 15bbs on bubble with 2nd largest stack with CL to act behind you!!
correct play would be for 55 guy to raise 2.5x and you to push and him to fold
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