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Old 08-27-2007, 10:24 PM
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Default Prolly a pretty bad way to play 99

Aggressor had not raised pf in 22 hands. Had raised 77 once post flop on a 522 board, then folded to my turn check raise pair of 10s. CO was very loose, calling down any pair. I was reasonably sure he was basically dead money on this hand.

I decided to call down as I could envision villain staying aggressive with a pair worse than 99 or with AK, plus CO sweetening the pot. However, I think this was probably a poor way to play this hand -- wondering if I should have A) folded the flop UI figuring to be almost for sure behind or B) playing it WA/WB and betting the river.

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, CO calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, CO calls, Hero calls.

River: (9.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, CO calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.75 BB
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Old 08-27-2007, 10:37 PM
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Default Re: Prolly a pretty bad way to play 99

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wondering if I should have A) folded the flop UI figuring to be almost for sure behind or B) playing it WA/WB and betting the river.


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A) No way, against AK and TT+ you have enough hand to continue. If you think he'll check through AK I'd donk the turn. On the river betting is alot better than check/calling since he'll rarely bet a worse hand, AK should never bet and we have a read he only limped 77?
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Old 08-27-2007, 10:39 PM
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Default Re: Prolly a pretty bad way to play 99

No sorry he cold called 77
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Old 08-27-2007, 10:48 PM
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Default Re: Prolly a pretty bad way to play 99

This hand would have been easier to play if you would have check raised the flop.

btw, how do you know he raised 77 once post flop on a 522 board, then folded to my turn check raise pair of 10s?
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Old 08-27-2007, 11:00 PM
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Default Re: Prolly a pretty bad way to play 99

He said "77 no good, I guess" in the chat box. Pair of T's were mine.
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Old 08-27-2007, 11:08 PM
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Default Re: Prolly a pretty bad way to play 99

Listening to chat is -EV

c/r the flop
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Old 08-27-2007, 11:46 PM
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He said "77 no good, I guess" in the chat box. Pair of T's were mine.

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ummm, was his username nikeoz? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 08-28-2007, 12:22 AM
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Default Re: Prolly a pretty bad way to play 99

OK, So it seems like c/r on the flop is the consensus. But help me out with two questions:

1- if his 3-bet range is TT+ &amp; AK I am ahead of 16 hands and behind 30. So it seems like I would want to get to showdown as quickly is possible.

2- Or is my c/r for information as much as anything? If so, I assume I fold to a 3-bet (or call and fold turn UI).
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Old 08-28-2007, 12:33 AM
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Default Re: Prolly a pretty bad way to play 99

I think the plan must be to fold the turn to a 3-bang. I assume it is a raise for value with a good chunk of information in it.

I don't think taking a passive line is bad tho against someone who will 3-barrel.

I'm not sure weather you should bet the river or not, AK might call but thats is pretty much it. AQ and less is probably checking behind and I don't think they are calling but if Villain is a showdown monkey then its a bet.
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Old 08-28-2007, 01:45 AM
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This hand would have been easier to play if you would have check raised the flop.

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Are you folding to a 3bet or is this the valueless c/r I've been berating people for recently?

I'd probably donk the river. he's less likely to make a dumb raise with AK given the other player in the hand.
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