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08-27-2007, 06:38 PM
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KK on monotone flop (5max)
Villain is unknown.
Hero in SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5 players Preflop: Villain raises, folded to Hero who treys, Villain calls. Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Hero bets, Villain raises, Hero ? Not a good flop for me, as even if he doesn't have a flush, JJ or TT are in his range. What's the plan from here? Is it an obvious call-down? 
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#3
08-27-2007, 07:03 PM
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Re: KK on monotone flop (5max)
I would either 3-bet the flop or call the flop and lead the turn to screw up his free card play.
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#5
08-27-2007, 07:22 PM
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Re: KK on monotone flop (5max)
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[ QUOTE ] I would either 3-bet the flop or call the flop and lead the turn to screw up his free card play. [/ QUOTE ] i dont think thats a good idea here its pretty much WA/WB [/ QUOTE ] wow. please elaborate on how this is WA/WB.
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#6
08-27-2007, 07:24 PM
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Re: KK on monotone flop (5max)
Hero 3bets & is wary of any [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], however I would still say b/f on later streets if it hits. (unless its the K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ldo)
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#7
08-27-2007, 07:24 PM
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Re: KK on monotone flop (5max)
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or call the flop and lead the turn to screw up his free card play. [/ QUOTE ] what do you do if the turn bricks, you donk, and villain raises again?
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#8
08-27-2007, 07:25 PM
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Re: KK on monotone flop (5max)
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[ QUOTE ] I would either 3-bet the flop or call the flop and lead the turn to screw up his free card play. [/ QUOTE ] i dont think thats a good idea here its pretty much WA/WB [/ QUOTE ] About the weakest hand he could be raising this flop with is a flush draw, which has 9 outs against me. So I can't be WA.
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#9
08-27-2007, 07:30 PM
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Re: KK on monotone flop (5max)
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I would either 3-bet the flop or call the flop and lead the turn to screw up his free card play. [/ QUOTE ] i dont think thats a good idea here its pretty much WA/WB [/ QUOTE ] About the weakest hand he could be raising this flop with is a flush draw, which has 9 outs against me. So I can't be WA. [/ QUOTE ] villian is unknown. I have seen villians semibluff here with top pair no flush draw because its a scary board. but of course villian will have a a flush draw most of time but i dont have the balls to 3 bang it
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#10
08-27-2007, 07:36 PM
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Re: KK on monotone flop (5max)
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I would either 3-bet the flop or call the flop and lead the turn to screw up his free card play. [/ QUOTE ] i dont think thats a good idea here its pretty much WA/WB [/ QUOTE ] About the weakest hand he could be raising this flop with is a flush draw, which has 9 outs against me. So I can't be WA. [/ QUOTE ] villian is unknown. I have seen villians semibluff here with top pair no flush draw because its a scary board. [/ QUOTE ] True enough. But TP will often have 5 out, so again, I'm not WA of that. WA/WB typically refers to 3 outs or less.
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